I have been assured that they will show me this winter. These guys, in their 80s make wine that if you bought it on the open market would cost $60 a bottle, it is incredible. They said when they have some wine that tastes like crap they make it into brandy. Now it is my understanding they will not show me since it is illegal to run a still in my state they will only talk to be about it. They said they have found some bottles on their front porch which tasted very good. And no they do not know were they came from..........