Shtf

[Mrscott68]

What do you guys think the most common shtf scenario is?

[Illini Warrior]

without a doubt - weather related problems

[mitunnelrat]

Or personal financial crisis

[Mrscott68]

I think it's an emp

[Sniper-T]

I agree with warrior. I personally deal with 1/2 a dozen weather related urgent scenarios per year in which I rely on my preps.

MTR, I hope I never have to deal with a personal financial crisis, other than dealing with my monthly payments, but I hear ya brother!

Thus far, I have yet to deal with an EMP.

[bacpacker]

Weather far and away down here. Financial/jobs sec9nd. Hamas would be a distant third.

[helomech]

I am one of those that don't see localized events as SHTF. I see those just as normal life, and that is preparing for things that will happen. To me SHTF means life changing events, and no help is coming. I have been through many hurricanes and don't even see those as SHTF events. They suck, and are inconvenient, but help is usually not far away. Same thing as forest fires where I live now.

To me the biggest risk of SHTF is terrorist attack on the power system. Would not be that difficult, and would cause lots of problems. That is just me, your mileage may vary.

[mitunnelrat]

See, and I was looking at localized events as s hitting the f. I would have said weather as the most common myself, but large enough events draw relief and government assistance, and - barring serious injuries or deaths - people struggle in the aftermath due to a lack of options, which generally can be traced back to a lack of money until that assistance arrives.

I think prepping helps alleviate that strain because it puts material resources in place ahead of time, but you can see the disparity even in our community. Some of us are capable of doing more than others, and will also be able to weather minor events in more comfort. I don't see this changing unless something utterly catastrophic and uber rare were to occur on a global level to collapse multiple societies and level the playing field.

[helomech]

See, and I was looking at localized events as s hitting the f. I would have said weather as the most common myself, but large enough events draw relief and government assistance, and - barring serious injuries or deaths - people struggle in the aftermath due to a lack of options, which generally can be traced back to a lack of money until that assistance arrives.

I think prepping helps alleviate that strain because it puts material resources in place ahead of time, but you can see the disparity even in our community. Some of us are capable of doing more than others, and will also be able to weather minor events in more comfort. I don't see this changing unless something utterly catastrophic and uber rare were to occur on a global level to collapse multiple societies and level the playing field.

I just believe there is a difference between SHTF and preparing. And the supplies needed for each or very different, even though some things can used for both.

[ElevenBravo]

I think it's an emp

If you listen to one of the original (first year?) podcast from Jack Spirco and his guest, the worries of an actual EMP will diminish greatly.

And if the thinking minds are wrong, then my old Detroit diesel, AK47 and Coleman lantern are already impervious to EMP so IDC. :-)

As far as SHTF for me? Finicial, weather and crime... in that order. I still prep for "anything and everything", but give most focus on items with higher probability.

EB