Quote Originally Posted by Caveman Survival View Post
Umm ok... well I'm not gonna get into that (slavery) any further than it already has gone, which is off topic.

And again, constitution aside, this was a thread about capitalism vs socialism. I'm of the opinion that it better serves the people of a country to help and aid those within in order to strengthen the social structure of society. That's not saying freebies and handouts. I'm a strong proponent of workfare as long as it has limits and timeframes to build skills and opportunity. Watching the social structure fail serves no purpose to the goals of any nation, let alone help it maintain its dominance. If you do not have an educated and healthy population you have nothing, plain and simple.


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Slavery isn't off topic, it is directly related to socialism. Having someone work, and not paying them for that is a form of slavery. I am forced to work many many hours every year without getting paid for that. What do you call that?

Funny, because for most of our history, government did not pay for anything to individuals and we became the strongest nation in the world. Now with all the taxes and government handouts we are failing. I believe the exact opposite of what you just said. People become strong and smart by going after things. Survival of the fittest, and remove government restrictions. College for probably 85% of the people is a complete waste of money, time and resources. I make more than almost any of my friends, I work less time and have zero college education. You can't teach intelligence.

Look at Texas, vs Chicago, New York, or California. We have growth, jobs, and low taxes.


Limited government is directly related to capitalism. In a government like yours you are way closer to socialism than we are, we are closer to capitalism. Our government has gotten way out of hand, and it goes back decades. We need to restrain it, and cut about 90% of it.