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    OP, how far from home do you envision yourself typically being that in a worst case scenario you'd need to cover, and do you make seasonal adjustments to your kit. I'm guessing if you're in the military in NYS you're at Drum, and life there usually consists of various degrees of cold interspersed with black fly season and a few weeks of a relatively cool summer......

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    The 'blood tracker' ones are 'meh' at best. If there is a good bleed, then they do ok, but if the animal is lung shot and expiring a mist (as they often do), then a plain white light and a paper towel work 100x better.

    I agree 100% on the hands free lights. I have some regular ones, but 90+% of the time, I just use a cap light:

    http://www.cabelas.ca/index.cfm?page...=2005&ID=40412

    A buddy's company is looking to market these:
    http://www.cabelas.com/product/Cloth...3Bcat103957380
    and when he does I'll probably pick one up for hunting season
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    Totally agree! I've been using those for years backpacking, working on cars, caving, all kinds of uses. We have 2 older model Petzels we've had for 20+ years that still work great, original bulbs even. We've gotten a couple of LED types the past few years and they are decent, but don't compare to the Petzel's. Last fall I found a 60 lumen Petzel for $30 at a local backpacking store. That thing is very nice. I've used it periodically over the past year including one backpacking trip and still on the first set of batteries.

    I will be getting a few more of these. Hands free is the way to go.

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    maybe a couple energy bars, maps of the local area/state. Some cash/coins. smalll fishing kit. Dump the rope and replace it with para chord?

    Just some thoughts.

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    Maybe a couple tea bags or instacoffee and steel cup? couple mints and/or chewy gum. these help break the monotony and give you a way to bleed off stress.

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    More trauma gear? Maybe an Israeli bandage and an H&H chest seal. That would cover most any deep wound and sucking chest wounds without taking up a ton of space.

    There's all sorts of ways you can bang yourself up so bad you require trauma gear and it not even be in the middle of a SHTF event.
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    GHB breakdown

    Quote Originally Posted by Dropy View Post
    maybe a couple energy bars, maps of the local area/state. Some cash/coins. smalll fishing kit. Dump the rope and replace it with para chord?

    Just some thoughts.

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    Maybe a couple tea bags or instacoffee and steel cup? couple mints and/or chewy gum. these help break the monotony and give you a way to bleed off stress.
    The General and I are not coffee drinkers. Although we love the crystal light and poweraide mixes you can throw into water. Perfect to supplement lost electrolytes hiking or running with gear on. Didn't even think about that. Para
    Cord is in the bag now. Keeping the rope for towing purposes. I'll probably make it a permanent addition to the SUV.

    I do need some maps of my AO. Lot of Forrest up here. Easy to get lost.

    Fishing kit is on my SHTF to do list.
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    GHB breakdown

    Quote Originally Posted by The Stig View Post
    More trauma gear? Maybe an Israeli bandage and an H&H chest seal. That would cover most any deep wound and sucking chest wounds without taking up a ton of space.

    There's all sorts of ways you can bang yourself up so bad you require trauma gear and it not even be in the middle of a SHTF event.
    You are right that I'm lacking trauma gear. Working on getting bandages and seals. Quick clot also comes to mind as well. As far as a chest seal there is always improvising. Clean side of an mre bag and enough medical tape will work as a seal.
    I don’t have “hobbies” I’m developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set.

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    I have had GHBs in our cars since before I knew what a GHB was. Here in So. Cal. I am more prepared for roads to be blocked due earthquake damage. I am prepared to live off my bag for about 3 days in an emergency. We carry clean socks and some extra undies. In the years I have carried that bag, I have used it 3 times --- all for first aid when coming upon auto accidents. The last time was a bad head-on in the mountains that involved 3 cars. The vehicle just ahead of me was driven by a paramedic and his wife who was a former paramedic. They had NO first aid gear and were quite happy with all the latex gloves, bandages and tape I was able to supply. They were able to provide treatment to the four badly injured people until the ambulances could get on scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Socalman View Post
    I have had GHBs in our cars since before I knew what a GHB was. Here in So. Cal. I am more prepared for roads to be blocked due earthquake damage. I am prepared to live off my bag for about 3 days in an emergency. We carry clean socks and some extra undies. In the years I have carried that bag, I have used it 3 times --- all for first aid when coming upon auto accidents. The last time was a bad head-on in the mountains that involved 3 cars. The vehicle just ahead of me was driven by a paramedic and his wife who was a former paramedic. They had NO first aid gear and were quite happy with all the latex gloves, bandages and tape I was able to supply. They were able to provide treatment to the four badly injured people until the ambulances could get on scene.
    nice reviving of this post.

    as for the GHB/BOB to me are essentially the same, as my needs are different than others. in addition i also carry a fully stocked Tri Fold Med Bag, for life's little emergencies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Socalman View Post
    I have had GHBs in our cars since before I knew what a GHB was. Here in So. Cal. I am more prepared for roads to be blocked due earthquake damage. I am prepared to live off my bag for about 3 days in an emergency. We carry clean socks and some extra undies. In the years I have carried that bag, I have used it 3 times --- all for first aid when coming upon auto accidents. The last time was a bad head-on in the mountains that involved 3 cars. The vehicle just ahead of me was driven by a paramedic and his wife who was a former paramedic. They had NO first aid gear and were quite happy with all the latex gloves, bandages and tape I was able to supply. They were able to provide treatment to the four badly injured people until the ambulances could get on scene.
    I'd wager one of my Morgan ounces that, as soon as things settled down, they availed themselves to at least one Navy corpsman/Army medic - class medic's bag with as many goodies within as law allows. Something >I< need to scrape up, myself.

    I'd further recommend a 100 ct bottle per GHB (and yes, dummy I am, I still don't know what it means) of a generic multivitamin, and, knowing I'm liable to be bitched at for mentioning it... so be it... a further bottle, each 50 ct, of No-Doz or other caffeine tablet, and Nytol. There are flat out some times when gutting out a night of needing to be awake is not going to be enough, and far better caffeine than some of the other prescription stimulants out there. The accompanying jitters is where the Nytol comes into play.

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