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Stormfeather
04-30-2012, 03:19 AM
So the wife and I are on our laptops at the dinner table. . .

Shes hooting.. . . .cackling. . . giggling. . . . nose snorting. . .laughing.

Im asking whats so funny, and where is it so I can read it.

Her reply. . . .

"um. . . no, you cant read it"

Uh huh I say, and why not?. . . '

"Ladies Forum. . . "

So at least she clues me in onto what shes laughing about. Nice joke there ladies, "Why Do Men Snore?"

Ok, whats up here guys? Can we get a private forum for our jokes?? I want to lodge a official butt hurt complaint!

:cool:

The Stig
04-30-2012, 12:53 PM
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/good-good-let-the-butthurt-flow-through-you.jpg

ladyhk13
05-01-2012, 05:00 AM
Now we all know if you guys had one it wouldn't just have some jokes in it! It would have to have a female mod in order to keep it clean for all of you married guys LOL!!! Ours at least are cute. Ya have to admit that one was funny though. I can't remember the last time I laughed so hard...I never heard such a thing before!!!!!!

Brownwater Riverrat 13
05-01-2012, 05:01 AM
The old vapor lock huh? That's ok I got me a C-PAP machine fer that shit!

Be safe.............the night is your friend

Stormfeather
05-01-2012, 03:10 PM
Yes lady HK, the same could be said for my DW, she was laughing so hard for a good 10 minutes, then it went evenlonger when she tried to tell me what it was about. Gotta admit, that was funny!

Brownwater Riverrat 13
05-01-2012, 04:18 PM
I guess there are quite a few wives in the "Ladies Forum". Bet that's where they teach'em to kill snakes! Member that story bout the apple boys! Dang conspiracy I tell ya!


Be safe.............the night is your friend

Evolver
05-01-2012, 11:46 PM
Ok, whats up here guys? Can we get a private forum for our jokes?? I want to lodge a official butt hurt complaint!

:cool:

I was thinking the same thing. It really would be nice to have a place were we (us guys) could discuss our personal problems like... What happens to our under garments while working out in the heat, nose and ear hair removal techniques, Which are the best nail trimmers buck, old timer or case, the best way to cleanly do a farmers blow without wiping your hand on your jeans, ways to prevent chafing, a place that we can just release our built up gases without any complaints.

IDTANDY
05-02-2012, 12:09 AM
Gentlemen,
Having spent the last 30 years working in a mostly Female enviroement,Nursing,had a place in the corner of the unit with my heart monitors.......They forgot I was there ...Ages 19-60's......Had me blushing.....When they realized I was there............Crimson Red...and I've seen the dark side...I'll leave them be,besides I've heard enough Banana Hammock jokes to last a lifetime.:D but I loved every minute of it.

Sniper-T
05-02-2012, 12:18 AM
Meh!

I still like the idea of a guys forum, and no, not moderated by a lady. (no offence ladyhk)

Guys have women problems, guys have women issues, guys have women preps to consider, guys need guy talk. period.

and No... no period talk! Er, well, maybe as it pertains to preps, especially for those of us with wives only semi on board.

IMO

Evolver
05-02-2012, 12:51 AM
Gentlemen,
Having spent the last 30 years working in a mostly Female enviroement,Nursing,had a place in the corner of the unit with my heart monitors.......They forgot I was there ...Ages 19-60's......Had me blushing.....When they realized I was there............Crimson Red...and I've seen the dark side...I'll leave them be,besides I've heard enough Banana Hammock jokes to last a lifetime.:D but I loved every minute of it.

Oh... That is just not so... Women don't do that just ask one they will tell you so.

Sniper-T
05-02-2012, 01:40 AM
rofl... yeah, they don't fart... oops sorry... fluff either!

Brownwater Riverrat 13
05-02-2012, 01:55 AM
Uuuuuhhhhh............what's a banana hammock? Is that like one of them Burgess Meredith jokes at the end of Grumpy Old Men?

Be safe..............the night is your friend.

Evolver
05-02-2012, 01:57 AM
Yeah a place that we could share, like... Dang I just ripped a good one did you hear it? Good one huh? Nice bass and it smelt like rosewood didn't it? LOL

ladyhk13
05-02-2012, 02:19 AM
I was thinking the same thing. It really would be nice to have a place were we (us guys) could discuss our personal problems like... What happens to our under garments while working out in the heat, nose and ear hair removal techniques, Which are the best nail trimmers buck, old timer or case, the best way to cleanly do a farmers blow without wiping your hand on your jeans, ways to prevent chafing, a place that we can just release our built up gases without any complaints.

No worries! We ladies can help you guys with all those problems, all ya have to do is ask. We can even give ya some funny stuff too! Just ask Taz!

Evolver
05-02-2012, 02:48 AM
No worries! We ladies can help you guys with all those problems, all ya have to do is ask. We can even give ya some funny stuff too! Just ask Taz!

Now now this is just guys talking thread. I was just going to tell them that when Justa asks me to pull her finger I push it and she just burps.

ladyhk13
05-02-2012, 02:55 AM
Now now this is just guys talking thread. I was just going to tell them that when Justa asks me to pull her finger I push it and she just burps.

Does she know you are telling her secrets????

Evolver
05-02-2012, 03:20 AM
Does she know you are telling her secrets????

Her secrets? :p

ladyhk13
05-02-2012, 03:25 AM
About pushing her finger thing. Does she want the world to know?

The Stig
05-02-2012, 11:25 AM
I was thinking the same thing. It really would be nice to have a place were we (us guys) could discuss our personal problems like... What happens to our under garments while working out in the heat, nose and ear hair removal techniques, Which are the best nail trimmers buck, old timer or case, the best way to cleanly do a farmers blow without wiping your hand on your jeans, ways to prevent chafing, a place that we can just release our built up gases without any complaints.

What stops any of this from being discussed in the open forum?

I'm reasonably sure our women members understand that human bodies are gross and that hygiene goes to hell in SHTF events.

Frankly, if we are going to be real preppers discussing real prepping, why should we hide the gross stuff away? Any of those items you mentioned would be suitable for a thread in the open forum. It's reality and shouldn't be hidden. Wanna do a thread on crotch-rot, I'm game. Don't be disgusting for disgusting's sake, but why should we pretend it doesn't happen?

Frankly I think a "realities of human hygiene thread" would be fantastic given the number of medical professionals on the board and the different angles that discussion could take. If it includes the fact your skives reek and your balls get chafed so be it. That's life and we gotta plan for it.

Not arguing with you, just looking for a better understanding why that conversation would need to be in private. Maybe there's a good reason for it that I'm missing?

The staff is discussing a mens only forum behind closed cyber doors. As always, if it will lead to more and better prep related discussions (and be good for content/membership) I'm happy to open a new sub-forum. The reason I'm always reluctant to open new sub-forums is that (IMO) it's important for a forum to have a clean, easy to navigate appearance. 100 different subforums, with 4 topics each, looks dumb and makes finding information difficult. I don't want to launch a new subforum only to have it die a month later.

But again, if the general consensus is it would lead to more discussion, better discussion and lead to stronger relationships, I'm game. If it's just going to be a clubhouse to tell fart jokes or it's "the women have one, why can't we" then I'm not so interested.

We're just hashing through the details here.

Feel free to PM me with questions.

Sniper-T
05-02-2012, 12:47 PM
If that is the case... then why is there a need for a ladies forum?

realist
05-02-2012, 01:54 PM
Its a secret.............

Taz Baby
05-02-2012, 02:45 PM
OMGosh, why all the fuss about one little joke that, was put on the ladies forum that you couldn't read? I just don't understand. Those of you who have wives on here they have let you in on it and those of you who do not, I am sure you have read worse on Facebook. The reason for the ladies forum is so we can talk to each other about problems that we think we will have during the shtf. It has nothing to do with bashing men, porn, talking about our personal life on here. We are to grown up for that. We do not want everyone to know that we are having a problem with our female organs, what we are scared about what would happen to our kids if the shtf and we don't think we are prepared enough to protect them. All of this is talked through with our DH and not the world. yes there is a joke section on there but I put one out there for you too.

Now as far as talking about crotch rot and periods from hell and ball fungus, boils on the balls, ect do you really want that stuff out there where everyone can read? Since there is no age limit to join this forum and I have seen some 16 yr olds on here, do you really want them to get educated on these thing? Those are things that we as grownups have learned by experience. So my point is that yes it is shtf related and needs to be talked about but I for one am not going to ask a male stranger about what to do when my period is so painful that it feels like I am giving birth all over again. Or that I think I am bleeding to death because it just won't stop. Men do not know any of this and since you have not experienced it you can't help. I have no problem putting any question I have out on the forum, but some things just need to be private and can only be helpful by a person of the same sex that have gone through what you are going thru. If I wanted everyone in the world to know my personal problems, then I would post it on FACEBOOK. Sorry if this is to straight forward or seems a little harsh, but I am a straight shooter and don't beat around the bush about anything.

Sniper-T
05-02-2012, 02:52 PM
Interesting points Taz, but you're arguing against yourself.

If SHTF, and I (a male) have not seen any of those discussions, and my wife experiences something like that, I have nothing to draw on. Your painful periods do not affect me personally, and although I feel for you, knowing treatments, or actions that would help my wife, buddy's wife, neighbour, neice, etc. would be very good to know

Brownwater Riverrat 13
05-02-2012, 03:41 PM
QUIET!..........................I have a solution....................it's already on the site under "Medical Supplies" it's called "first aid". Maybe would should just rename Medical Supplies to "Medical" Supplies is but a subject. Then people, utilize the resources given to you instead of asking for your little private place. You need Medical help, you go to medical and you discuss it. Now think about his before you get mad at me. SHTF, you form your group, your "Colony" that's the way it's going to be, you need this, you go there, you want this, you go here, But it's all for the survival of the colony. Or the rest of this is just a bunch of people talkin. Or did I miss something here?




Be safe.............the night is your friend

Grumpy Old Man
05-02-2012, 04:19 PM
Well......this old rooster has been around enough hen coffee klatches that I don't feel the need to intrude. More to the point I find someplace else to go so they can have their fun. But, if we are considering having a men's sub-forum, I suggest we call it The Colony Saloon and Grill. Sniper can cook, I'll mix the drinks, Evolver can operate the beer tap and nightly storytelling will be provided by our resident authors. Wednesday night will be Ladies' Night wherein we honor the fairer sex and suspend our rude loutish behavior for an evening. The ladies will drink free and Sniper will serve cucumber finger sandwiches.

The rest of the time we can fart, belch and be rude to our hearts' content. Just my $22.00 ($0.02 adjusted for inflation).

The Stig
05-02-2012, 06:08 PM
Sigh......this is why we cant have nice things.

lets make this simple for those that can't follow along. There is a ladies forum and will continue to be because it encourages more prepping discussion relevent to their specific topics. Frankly, there is also a ladies forum because there is usually a male jackass in the crowd who juct can't keep their mouth shut...thus women are afraid to speak up about specific topcis for fear of jackassary.

Thus far nobody has enumerated why we need a mens forum or how specifically it will lead to more prepping related conversations. For some of you it appears to be more of an issue of "why do they have soemthing I don't.". For you, and I'm saying this as nicely and brotherly as I can: grow the fuck up.

Now, This conversation should not be, nor shal it be, about why we have a ladies forum. The conversation should be about why a mens only forum will benefit the website, lead to more prep specific topics and generally grow the comuunity.

Copy?

I'm willing to entertain a mens only forum but as noted in my earlier post I want to consider it fully before opening a new forum willy-nilly. Otherwise you fragment the forum. I thought I was doing a nice thing by soliciting the memberships opinion but if this continues to be be pissing and moaning about not having something, or irritation over not seeing a joke then my decision to not open a new-subforum will be that much easier.

mollypup
05-02-2012, 06:37 PM
lets make this simple for those that can't follow along. There is a ladies forum and will continue to be because it encourages more prepping discussion relevent to their specific topics. Frankly, there is also a ladies forum because there is usually a male jackass in the crowd who juct can't keep their mouth shut...thus women are afraid to speak up about specific topcis for fear of jackassary.


Exactly and to the point!!!! I was hoping a guy would say that and thanks Stig! :) I would never post a feminine related topic in the open forum because I KNOW from past experience, that some male jackass (or two or more) is gonna post back lewd comments, pictures or something very unkind. Such topics stay strictly in the ladies forums. Now, men can post about all the ball disorders they want too and generally know that women are NOT inclined to be ugly about it. At most we might make a tiny funny, but even then probably not. Most of us just are wired to be nice about things like that.

Twitchy
05-02-2012, 07:06 PM
OMGosh, why all the fuss about one little joke that, was put on the ladies forum that you couldn't read? I just don't understand. Those of you who have wives on here they have let you in on it and those of you who do not, I am sure you have read worse on Facebook. The reason for the ladies forum is so we can talk to each other about problems that we think we will have during the shtf. It has nothing to do with bashing men, porn, talking about our personal life on here. We are to grown up for that. We do not want everyone to know that we are having a problem with our female organs, what we are scared about what would happen to our kids if the shtf and we don't think we are prepared enough to protect them. All of this is talked through with our DH and not the world. yes there is a joke section on there but I put one out there for you too.

Now as far as talking about crotch rot and periods from hell and ball fungus, boils on the balls, ect do you really want that stuff out there where everyone can read? Since there is no age limit to join this forum and I have seen some 16 yr olds on here, do you really want them to get educated on these thing? Those are things that we as grownups have learned by experience. So my point is that yes it is shtf related and needs to be talked about but I for one am not going to ask a male stranger about what to do when my period is so painful that it feels like I am giving birth all over again. Or that I think I am bleeding to death because it just won't stop. Men do not know any of this and since you have not experienced it you can't help. I have no problem putting any question I have out on the forum, but some things just need to be private and can only be helpful by a person of the same sex that have gone through what you are going thru. If I wanted everyone in the world to know my personal problems, then I would post it on FACEBOOK. Sorry if this is to straight forward or seems a little harsh, but I am a straight shooter and don't beat around the bush about anything.

agreed on several points, I also thought on the age matter on certain subjects... So far, age hasn't been an issue, and IIRC, im the only minor unless there are others who are not speaking up. Mind you, im an EMT student and have seen / known of worse things than you have listed. That does not go for everyone, and if the parents find their kid surfing a site on some issues it could lead to issues... Maturity and age seem to play a big part in the issue at hand...

Also, For what it is worth, I agree renaming medical supplies to just "Medical". There are a TON of things that are outside of the realm of supplies but are still highly useful bits of information for us preppers.

I know i'm forgetting something, so ill be chiming in later :/

The Stig
05-02-2012, 07:35 PM
For the last time.....


Now, This conversation should not be, nor shal it be, about why we have a ladies forum. The conversation should be about why a mens only forum will benefit the website, lead to more prep specific topics and generally grow the comuunity.

IDTANDY
05-02-2012, 08:08 PM
Well......this old rooster has been around enough hen coffee klatches that I don't feel the need to intrude. More to the point I find someplace else to go so they can have their fun. But, if we are considering having a men's sub-forum, I suggest we call it The Colony Saloon and Grill. Sniper can cook, I'll mix the drinks, Evolver can operate the beer tap and nightly storytelling will be provided by our resident authors. Wednesday night will be Ladies' Night wherein we honor the fairer sex and suspend our rude loutish behavior for an evening. The ladies will drink free and Sniper will serve cucumber finger sandwiches.

The rest of the time we can fart, belch and be rude to our hearts' content. Just my $22.00 ($0.02 adjusted for inflation).

Have to agree.Got afew yarns myself:rolleyes:
Having a ladies forum,like The Stig said.
I know how to make Pierogi(bacon and potato),made a batch and Borscht and sour cream.....For dinner tonight..

Grumpy Old Man
05-02-2012, 08:41 PM
For the last time.....

Can't we all just get along? Sorry Stig, but I find this thread more than a little silly which is why I was being glib! That being the point of my previous post, I don't think we need a separate sub-forum for men. But.... I do think we need a saloon! Sorry, I'll tun off the wiseass switch.

eagle326
05-02-2012, 10:20 PM
After reading the entire thread I have to believe that we don't need a Men's forum. Women are unique unto us and have very different set of problems due to their physical make up. I have no problem with them discussing things amongst themselves.

I always figured in my 62 years that if a woman wants me to know then she'll tell me or ask my opinion and if not I'm okay with that.
Men and women are wired entirely different and think on different levels towards the end solution.
As for us men ; We can always post a what if situation male problem. If I have a problem and I believe that the colony can help rectify it I have no problem posting it. But men have always had a way to make light of things no matter how serious it may sound.

I would leave the Ladies forum as is and continue on as we are at this time. Just my opinion.

ladyhk13
05-02-2012, 11:27 PM
When I came on board here I asked Stig if he would consider creating a Ladies Forum for us and I will tell you why. Over at the old site women were bashed for our thoughts, ideas, problems in life and pretty much every other reason you can imagine. Many of you men that came from there know this. I wanted to make sure that on THIS site our gals were protected and had a place where they felt safe to come to if they had a huge fight with their spouse over him not agreeing with her prepping, or maybe they were having financial difficulties and were about to lose their house and she is trying to balance making ends meet and still continue to prep, maybe they had a child that was a problem and didn't know how to deal - these things can be embarassing for women....not just medical issues. I think many of our women feel pretty at ease talking to most of you guys about an issue due to the great backgrounds a lot of you have, but just in case they still have a place to come to for answers and we can help. It's like a sisterhood.
I think that up until this point our colony has been wonderful and now some of you guys are getting all upset over not having a "men's only" club for you to what? Fart, tell dirty jokes, put up naked women pics? Is that the kind of site we want here? I know you could find one out there that has that stuff without bringing "trash" into the colony.
Why is everyone so pissed about having a Ladies Forum? Women have a different set of problems, emotions and priorities. Ask your wives. If both parties are not on board with prepping it can be very stressful and sometimes we need someone to bounce things off of...just among the girls. Please don't take it personally but there are some things girls just don't want to talk about in front of men.

Grumpy Old Man
05-02-2012, 11:38 PM
^^Well stated!

The Stig
05-02-2012, 11:58 PM
This is getting out of hand.

I'm honestly shocked that some of you can't comprehend simple instructions. I asked that people give me reasons for the creation of the men's forum and instead all we get is debate and explanations over the women's. WTF.

Since no men were able to step forward and communicate a clear reason for a men's forum we will not be starting one. As I have stated numerous times, if a new forum will promote and foster more prep related conversation I'm all for it. Otherwise I want to think long and hard before adding a sub-forum that may detract from our stated purpose. At present nobody seems to be able to explain what issues the men would discuss that need to be discussed in private, or "men's only prepping subjects".

Further, all of the counsel I've received is against the idea, further reinforcing the wisdom of not creating a sub-forum at this time. I greatly appreciate the wisdom of some of the more experienced ants amongst us.

I hope we can put this asinine thread behind us and get back to discussing prepping.

Stig

Sniper-T
05-03-2012, 02:47 AM
The only reason I suggested a mens was so we could possibly discuss things like Lady mentioned above. My wife is barely tolerent towards my prepping at the best of times, and at certain times of the month, when money is tight, a lot less than that. I thought a 'guys' place to discuss the 'delicasies' in dealing with the fairer sex might be warranted. I've said many times, " A happy Wife = A happy Life"

I have asked specific questions in the past, and have received a classic answer of "Tell her to Join the Ladies forum" and then the topic is dropped. Here's a heads up, My wife and I don't facebook, we dont twitter, we don't myspace, etc. I am involved in forums because there is too much information to miss out on, and too many good people not to know. But know this... she will NOT be joining this, that, or any other forum. They are, as she calls it, 'my thing'

So if going ahead, if a man asks a 'delicate' question, perhaps a forward answer would be more appropriate? If the answer requires personal information, then try a PM, start it by saying 'according to a friend...'

As to other reasons mentioned for a guys place, no, we don't need anything IF all it is going to be is fart jokes, and pictures. there is a whole internet full of that.

The only reason that I dislike the ladies only forum, is because of the information that I might be missing out on. I am trying to prep for her needs as well, even though she doesn't want me to or think it is necessary. So for example... Tampons. I know she needs them, but what kind and why? I can open her side of the cupboard (and I do), and there is 1/2 a dozen open boxes in there of different types, sizes, colours, etc. Do I have to buy some of everything? equal amounts? Is there one 'do all' that would be better to buy? Are some brands better than others? if so, why? SHTF, no stockpile will do forever, so what are the next best things? will they be one use, or reusable? How do you effectively clean and disinfect...
Then we can discuss midol, and why an unopened box can sit in the cupboard for months, then the whole thing will get used in a single month. Is this the best thing for cramps? Why the differences month to month? what are the triggers? what else can help? heat, cold, teas???

that's all... nothing nefarious, just want the information

*sigh*

and now back to regular scheduled programming

Evolver
05-03-2012, 05:00 PM
I was thinking the same thing. It really would be nice to have a place were we (us guys) could discuss our personal problems like... What happens to our under garments while working out in the heat, nose and ear hair removal techniques, Which are the best nail trimmers buck, old timer or case, the best way to cleanly do a farmers blow without wiping your hand on your jeans, ways to prevent chafing, a place that we can just release our built up gases without any complaints.

I was being facetious and really don't care one way or a other about having a Mens or Womens room and that includes bathrooms too.
Hey I'm all for catering to the Lady's because there ain't much better to see them smile. :)

Stormfeather
05-04-2012, 11:32 PM
As the Original poster for this thread, let me toss my $22.00 (adjusted for Grumpys Inflation rate) into the pot and play the devils advocate. This was originally meant as a way to joke about a joke in the ladies forum that my wife wouldnt let me read, but was more than willing to tell me about. The comment about starting a mens forum was merely a joke meant to stir the humor pot. . . It was no way intended to start a bicker battle.

First off, I see the reasoning behind a Ladies only forum. Yes, it does allow women the ability to discuss finer points of prepping and associated trials and tribulations that they may not want the rougher sex knowing about. if it wasnt for the Ladies Only forum, my wife probably wouldnt have even joined up here. The ability to talk to others of the same sex about issues that you dont want disseminated for public use is a great tool.

On the other hand, there are times where us guys need time to vent as well, or want to discuss a information topic that we wouldnt want out there for the ladies eyes. I would bet even money that more than once theres been a discussion about relationships on the Ladies Forum, where women have asked opinions, or ideas, and they wouldnt want us guys knowing what is being talked about. Whats so wrong with us guys having the same option available to us? Also, As Sniper-T pointed out, There is a huge flux of information that us guys actually do not know about. When we ask, the women folks roll their eyes and get that "men just dont get it" glazed look to their eyes.
The bottom line, whats good for the goose is good for the gander,, right?

Now, would I use this "men only" forum, probably not. I would check in and scan topics and look for something that may catch my eye, but I doubt I would spend any significant time there. Is there a need for it, I would say yes, but I think it would be under-utilized until our membership base expands more. As it is currently, I have no issues about talking about crotch-rot, or body funk to anyone, male or female. Any topics I would have of revelance, obviously can be discussed out in the open forum.

So for me, I dont think there is a current need for one, but possibly sometime in the future, most definitely. I do like the compromise that Grumpy Old Man suggested, and I do believe that is what I will do, and go to The Colony Saloon & Bar and share my woes of woman making bad man jokes with the gang there!

That being said. . .Eat, Drink, Be Merry, Shoot First, Dead Men Tell No Lies, Stay Frosty, Dont Eat The Yellow Snow, Never Mix Sleeping Pill & Laxatives, Men Are Always Right Til The Wife Says We Arent, Rub Dirt On It, Salute & Execute.

Sniper-T
05-06-2012, 01:28 AM
Well stated stormy!

Guys in general (IMO) don't kick back and discuss their drips and droops. but, they do discuss how f'd up they perceive their 'other' to be at times. And sometimes, just having another guy(s) to vent to, and hearing some tales, is enough.

...

imo