The American Preparedness Radio Net. . .Prepper Radio!

[Stormfeather]

In my recent search for knowledge regarding commo, ham radio, and a way to be able to communicate with Ants not in my AO in case the SHTF, I came across this website. Being as im relatively knew at all the commo stuff, Im hoping someone a little more experienced here can maybe check this out and let me know if this is a good site or not. The American Preparedness Radio Net (http://www.taprn.com/) Seems legit across the board as I came across it from Essential Ops ( Essential Operations (http://essoperations.com/) ) and those guys seem to have good info for the most part.
Anyways, it seems that they have set up a network for preppers, have a "dedicated range of freq's, and are trying to get everyone on the same page as far as commo for preppers as a whole. Check it out and let me know what ya think folks!

Thanks!
Stay Frosty
SF

[bacpacker]

Stomry I'll start off with this disclaimer. I have not had a chance to look at much of the information there yet. So take this with a grain of salt for now.

That said, from what I have read so far the info seems to be spot on. They are working some different digital modes, both on VHF and HF. I have used the Winlink system for 2-3 years. Our emcomm group here set up a pretty good local network (say 30-50 miles as a guess). We also had 2-3 guys that set up HF Winmor links that would allow them to relay info outside our area ( across the country and beyond ). It is a solid system and has been used by folks on Sailboats around the world for years.

Sounds like they are also using VHF SSB (single Side band) for voice comms. I've never used this but I will research that further. I believe that may be a partial solution to thecomms distance between some of us. Worthy of more research for certain. SSB does take more specialized gear than normal VHF/UHF provides. I have a ICOM 706 that I got mainly to use for HF mobile work, but it also has a VHF portion, both of 6M and 2M. I will check to see if it does SSB on those freqs. More on SSB later.

I will get back into the other site comms and learn what I can later this weekend.

[Stormfeather]

Thanks man, basically im looking for me next investment prep wise, and I think that commo is going to be it. But the damn thing about it is, I dont know were to start (yea yea, I know, get a ham license) and what gear to get. So im kind of grasping at straws here when it comes to commo. Any help is of course appreciated.

[bacpacker]

For now getting your licence is important. For one thing it allows you to use the equipment legally and just like firearm training, use breeds familiarity and skills. There are many intricacies with the antennas in particular, plus modes of operation, bands, and other things with equipment. I've been at it for 14 years and still don't know much about it.

I will go thru the other site in more detail as time permits and try to bring over what I can.

[bacpacker]

After doing a little more reading I realized I have used some info from the site Stormy linked to above, The American Preparedness Radio Net (http://www.taprn.com/), in the past. They are one of the main go to's in ham radio for digital comms. I haven't been there in a while and from the looks are in the process of trying to create a nationwide radio network. It also looks like they are having the same trouble we did in our group. We ran a weekly net for our local group and had a lot of trouble getting folks to take turns being net control. Apparently TAPRN is having the same issues on a nationwide basis.

Here is some information I copied from the TARPN site. First is their comms plan for various frequencies.


Standardized Amateur Radio Prepper Communications Plan
About
In the event of a nationwide catastrophic disaster, the nationwide network of Amateur Radio
licensed preppers will need a set of standardized meeting frequencies to share information
and coordinate activities between various prepper groups. This Standardized Amateur Radio
Communications Plan establishes a set of frequencies on the 80 meter, 40 meter, 20 meter,
and 2 meter Amateur Radio bands for use during these types of catastrophic disasters.
Routine nets will not be held on all of these frequencies, but preppers are encouraged to use
them when coordinating with other preppers on a routine basis. Routine nets may be
conducted by The American Preparedness Radio Net (TAPRN) on these or other frequencies
as they see fit. However, TAPRN will promote the use of these standardized frequencies by all
Amateur Radio licensed preppers during times of catastrophic disaster. The promotion of this
Standardized Amateur Radio Communications Plan is encouraged by all means within the
prepper community, including via Amateur Radio, Twitter, Facebook, and various blogs.
Standardized Frequencies and Modes
80 Meters – 3.818 MHz LSB (TAPRN Net: Sundays at 9 PM ET)
40 Meters – 7.242 MHz LSB
40 Meters Digital – 7.073 MHz USB PSK-31 (TAPRN Net: Sundays at 7:30 PM ET)
20 Meters – 14.242 MHz USB
2 Meters – 146.420 MHz FM
Nets and Network Etiquette
In times of nationwide catastrophic disaster, the ability of any one prepper to initiate and
sustain themselves as a net control may be limited by the availability of power and other
resource shortages. However, all licensed preppers are encouraged to maintain a listening
watch on these frequencies as often as possible during a catastrophic disaster. Preppers may
routinely announce themselves in the following manner:
• This is [Your Callsign Phonetically] in [Your State], maintaining a listening watch on
[Standard Frequency] for any preppers on frequency seeking information or looking to
provide information. Please call [Your Callsign Phonetically].
Preppers exchanging information that may require follow up should agree upon a designated
time to return to the frequency and provide further information. If other stations are utilizing
the frequency at the designated time you return, maintain watch and proceed with your
communications when those stations are finished. If your communications are urgent and the
stations on frequency are not passing information of a critical nature, interrupt with the word
“Break” and request use of the frequency.
For More Information
The American Preparedness Radio Network: The American Preparedness Radio Net (http://www.taprn.com) or @TAPRN on Twitter
Catastrophe Network: » Catastrophe Network (http://www.catastrophenetwork.org) or @CatastropheNet on Twitter
10/29/2011


Here is a little information about the HF comms and how they work.

LONG RANGE Comms:

In general, higher HF frequencies travel farther than lower depending upon time of day. Successful communicators select frequencies which are correct for where you want to communicate to, taking into account solar/terrestrial conditions, season and time. For example, if right now at 17:30 Eastern time my station in Virginia is to communicate with a station in Wyoming, the 18 MHz band would be a great bet. Maybe 21 or 14 MHz too. However, I would NOT be heard in South Carolina on those bands, because we are too close, and they are in ‘the skip zone’; meaning that my signal ‘skip’s over them.

http://theoriginalpreppernetworks.com/APRN/APRN_blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/skipzone-III.png

Bottom line, this is a good site and well worth spending some time reading, if you are interested in learning some information about comms, digital in particular. As more time permits I will try and get more info and links posted up.

[bacpacker]

This one is for our Ants in Central and Eastern Michigan. I just ran across a link for CMEN The Central Michigan Emergency Network. These are all ham freq's. Even if you don't have your ham license or equipment. A scanner will pick up any and all these. With the proper programming so could one of the Sabre radio that have been discussed in other comms thread's.


Repeaters - cmen.us (http://cmen.us/repeaters/)

[bacpacker]

I don't recall if we've got folks on here in Alabama or not. I do know we have some that live close to the borders, so maybe someone will be able to find some use from this site.

Amateur and GMRS radio repeaters in Alabama (http://www.artscipub.com/repeaters/states/alabama.asp)

[bacpacker]

Here is one for Tennessee.

Amateur and GMRS radio repeaters in Tennessee (http://www.artscipub.com/repeaters/states/tennessee.asp)

[bacpacker]

This one should allow anyone to look at their particular state.

Amateur Radio Repeater database - Updated daily (http://www.artscipub.com/repeaters/)

[Twitchy]

much useful info at the site BP, thanks! I'm looking to get into Amateur radio operating, so im reading up on everything!

[White Tiger]

You know, I didn't see any net times or frequencies listed on the website...how do we find them on HF radio?

Never mind - just scrolled up and found it listed - above!

It sure wasn't easy (for me) to find from the TAPRN homepage!?

[Kesephist]

Yes, I am getting a rep for necro-ing...I'm certain the Admins can correct me on it, if they are of the mind to do so. That dispensed with...

Has the above mentioned lists of frequencies been kept, or have they been altered?

And before someone goes oh-how-dreadful about having violated OPSEC... None obtained by posting said list, in the clear, on an open website, with three year old frequencies.

Nor am I asking to where, IF they have been changed, where they have been changed to, simply IF. I see no need to compound one compromise with another.

Gibbs Rule #4: The best way to keep a secret? Keep it to yourself. Second best? Tell one other person - if you must. There is no third best.

Kesephist

[izzyscout21]

Kesephist, there's no taboo on necroposting as long as there is something added to the conversation.

Although we do reserve the right to pick on you for doing so.

Carry on.:)

[Kesephist]

Kesephist, there's no taboo on necroposting as long as there is something added to the conversation.

So technically, your reply was taboo. Oopsie, you're a admin...


Although we do reserve the right to pick on you for doing so.

And I reserve the right to return fire... like right now.


Carry on.:)

I did. You're welcome.

On point... For all the fine TALK on here about getting into groups and all, does it really take a relative newbee solo to point out this resorce that was once mentioned on here, and left silent for three years?

entangent, a crossword puzzle clue: nine letter word for saying one thing and doing its opposite...

[izzyscout21]

So technically, your reply was taboo. Oopsie, you're a admin...

Yes, indeed I am.




And I reserve the right to return fire... like right now.

Okay.....




On point... For all the fine TALK on here about getting into groups and all, does it really take a relative newbee solo to point out this resorce that was once mentioned on here, and left silent for three years?

entangent, a crossword puzzle clue: nine letter word for saying one thing and doing its opposite...

Not really sure what you're getting at. It's a forum, and just like anywhere else, topics die, and members move on to other things. What's your point?

As I said before, unlike other forums across the web, we don't discourage necroposting as long as there is something beneficial being added to the conversation. Otherwise, it's just meaningless chatter.

Since this thread was started, there have been numerous other threads about communications.

[2die4]

I have yet to check if the posted freqs are still valid but I'm sure the network has an updated list. You or any member ar free to post the updated list. But like Izzy said , topics get stale and members move on. Its the forum and any other forums circle of life. Excuse me while I sing off key a Lion king tune....