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Taz Baby
02-22-2013, 08:06 PM
Here is an article that I found but it was linked to another survival blog. I didn't know if I could put the link here so I copied it. BTY I do not go to or belong to any other survival form other than this one. I use to but there is no need to because this is all I need since I do not like politics.




7 Preppers Food Storage Mistakes

VARIETY - Most people don't have enough variety in their storage. 95% of the people I've worked with only stored the 4 basic items we mentioned earlier: wheat, milk, honey, and salt. Statistics show most of us won't survive on such a diet for several reasons.

Many people are allergic to wheat and may not be aware of it until they are eating it meal after meal.

Wheat is too harsh for young children. They can tolerate it in small amounts but not as their main staple.

We get tired of eating the same foods over and over and many times prefer not to eat than to sample that particular food again. This is called appetite fatigue. Young children and older people are particularly susceptible to it. Store less wheat than is generally suggest and put the difference into a variety of other grains, particularly ones your family likes to eat. Also store a variety of beans. This will add variety of color, texture and flavor. Variety is the key to a successful storage program. It is essential that you store flavorings such as tomato, bouilion, cheese, and onion.

Also, include a good supply of the spices you like to cook with. These flavorings and spices allow you to do many creative things with your grains and beans. Without them you are severely limited. One of the best suggestions I can give you is buy a good food storage cookbook. Go through it and see what your family would really eat. Notice the ingredients as you do it. This will help you more than anything else to know what items to store.

EXTENDED STAPLES - Few people get beyond storing the four basic items, but it is extemely important that you do so. Never put all your eggs in one basket. Store dehydrated and/or freeze-dried foods as well as home canned and store bought canned goods. Make sure you add cooking oil, shortening, baking powder, soda, yeast and powdered eggs. You can't cook even the most basic receipes without these items. Because of limited space I won't list all the items that should be included in a well-balanced storage program. They are all included in the The New Cookin With Home Storage cookbook, as well as information on how much to store, and where to purchase it.

VITAMINS - Vitamins are important, especially if you have children, since children do not store body reserves of nutrients as adults do. A good quality multi-vitamin and vitamin C are the most vital. Others may be added as your budget permits.

QUICK AND EASY AND PSYCHOLOGICAL FOODS - Quick and easy foods help you through times when you are psychologically or physically unable to prepare your basic storage items. No cook foods such as freeze-dried are wonderful since they require little preparation. MRE's (Meals Ready to Eat), such as many prepardness outlets carry, canned goods, etc. are also very good. Psycological Foods are the goodies - Jello, pudding, candy, etc. - you should add to your storage.

These may sound frivolous, but through the years I've talked with many people who have lived entirely on their storage for extended periods of time. Nearly all of them say these were the most helpful items in their storage to normalize their situations and make it more bearable. These are especially important if you have children.

BALANCE - Time and time again I've seen families buy all of their wheat, then buy all of another item, and so on. Don't do that. It's important to keep well-balanced as you build your storage. Buy several items, rather than a large quantity of one item. If something happens and you have to live on your present storage, you''ll fare much better having a one-month supply of a variety of items than a year's supply of two to three items.

CONTAINERS - Always store your bulk foods in food storage containers. I have seen literally tons and tons of food thrown away because they were left in sacks, where they became highly susceptible to moisture, insects and rodents. If you are using plastic buckets make sure they are lined with a food grade plastic liner available from companies that carry packaging supplies. Never use trash can liners as these are treated with pesticides. Don't stack them too high. In an earthquake they may topple, the lids pop open, or they may crack. A better container is the #10 tin can which most prepardness companies use when they package their foods.

USE YOUR STORAGE - In all the years I've worked with prepardness one of the biggest problems I've seen is people storing food and not knowing what to do with it. It's vital that you and your family become familiar with the things you are storing. You need to know how to prepare these foods. This is not something you want to learn under stress. Your family needs to be used to eating these foods. A stressful period is not a good time to totally change your diet. Get a food storage cookbook and learn to use these foods!

It's easy to solve these food storage problems once you know what they are. The lady I talked about at the first of the article left realizing what she had stored was a good beginning, but not enough. As she said, "It's better to find out the mistakes I've made now while there's still time to make corrections." This makes a lot more sense.

If you're one who needs to make some adjustments, that's okay. Look at these suggestions and add the things you're missing. It's easy to take a basic storage and add the essentials to make it liveable, but it needs to be done. As I did the research for my cookbook I wanted to include recipes that gave help to families no matter what they had stored. As I put the material together it was fascinating to discover what the pioneers ate is the type of things we store. But if you have stored only the 4 basics, there's very, very little you can do with it. By adding even just a few things it greatly increases your options, and the prospect of your family surviving on it. As I studied how the pioneers lived and ate, my whole feeling for food changed. I realized our storage is what most of the world has always lived on. If it's put together the right way we'll be returning to good basic living with a few goodies thrown in.

Taz Baby
02-22-2013, 08:17 PM
Do you have any food storage don'ts that you have found out from trial and error to help us out with?

bacpacker
02-22-2013, 11:24 PM
My biggest issue is keeping up with expiration dates. I know most things are good for longer than dated. And we keep that in mind, but I still have concerns and work to keep our rotation up to date.

I liked the story you posted and agree with building supplies as a whole instead of one item at a time. At least till you have 4-6 months built up. Once you have that much I feel that you can switch to a larger bulk buying plan to save money. Having a balanced plan including lots of spices is very important. Freeze dried and MRE are important to, not in huge quantities (IMO), but enough to use during times of travel or or when time is critical such as an ongoing grooup of raiders in the AO where your on guard all the time.

4suchatimeasthis
02-22-2013, 11:34 PM
Not keeping an updated inventory. It's happened a few times now, I thought something was in there that was already used, or thought something was gone that I found more of. Not good!

Taz Baby
02-23-2013, 12:46 AM
We separate our food in 2 different ways.
1. We have those plastic 5 shelf thingy in the house to fill up when things are on sale that we use all the time. Like can veggies, tomatoes the cream soups mac n cheese, ect.
2. the bulk of our food storage we box up with each item, write the date and what it is. Then stack them in rows with the newest in the back. like 40 jars of peanut butte, 50 cans of cheese, 50 cans of coffee and so on. We stack the things that won't go bad like coffee and sets of dishes, dish soap, silverware, tp, Pt, ect in one place that we do not have to rotate. Then the things we do have to rotate we put on the other side and rotate about every 3 to 4 months. Take one out to put in the house and put one new box in.

Evolver
02-23-2013, 01:42 AM
Boxed shelf stable milk is one that we tried and is really not worth it when you can buy long term milk that's just as good.
Mac and Cheese like kraft doesn't "last" as long as I would have liked or thought. The cheese gets nasty after a year out of date.
TVP (texturized vegetable protein) was a disappointment for me, I was hoping for a better flavor and texture so rice will do just fine if need be.
Sugar that turns into a brick... just keep a mallet on hand to pulverize it when needed.

The conclusion that we came up with is... Any of our foods that we store that is way out of date and not worth taking that chance of eating is just tossed out and replenished as a rotation. We store way more than the two of us would ever eat so things will go bad even it's 25yrs from now but we would rather toss it out "sacrificial foods" than not have it at all. :)

msomnipotent
02-23-2013, 03:10 AM
I made the mistake of assuming if a young child likes something now, they will always like it. My daughter's tastes changes with the wind, and I have way too much mac & cheese and a certain type of oatmeal that she couldn't get enough of a few months ago and now won't touch it. I have a feeling that she will want it again the day after I give it away, so it stays in the basement for now.

rentprop1
02-23-2013, 09:12 AM
my biggest problem isn't keeping up on the rotations

its only me and the wife so, and we are both on strict diets, a lot of it is gluten free diet, most everything prep related to foods isn't healthy and thus we don't buy enough to rotate it ( things like flour, spam, pasta, canned ham, rice ....etc )

I must have just tossed 50 cans of expired ( more than a year ago ) Chef BoyRDee and 2 year expired rice and pasta, can't eat it and its a lot to store to barter....

so the real question is......what is the barter value on something that is 2 years expired ???

4suchatimeasthis
02-23-2013, 02:26 PM
^^^ Can you eat eggs? Cause I have a great barter system worked out with my chickens. They take my spoiled foods, and turn them into fresh eggs. It's fantastic! Very cheap, as well ;)

Seriously though, around here, we don't throw away spoiled food, it either gets fed to the dogs, the chickens, or gets tossed into the garden plot (composts itself when you till it up).

Luvmycats
03-21-2013, 11:37 AM
I get so frustrated when I read about storing all of that flour, wheat, rice etc. My DH insisted on buying a 50 lb. bag of rice over a year ago. 95% of it is still on the pantry shelves. Why store something you rarely eat? *head desk* We seem to do the same thing msomnipotent ran into with her daughter. We tend to go through stages with certain things for a time, then get sick of them and not want them for months. I rarely buy anything in bulk because of this. I have come to the conclusion that there is no perfect way to do this.
We are in the process of redoing our pantry because of the rotation problem I suffer with. We built the can rotating thing a few weeks ago, (Taz Baby posted pics somewhere here) this week end we are building a different style out of wood. (I will post pics if someone will be kind enough to tell me how) ;) I have also devised an easy way to rotate my home canned goods.

2die4
03-21-2013, 12:11 PM
Hmm...reading this thread reminds me that I got a 5 gallon bucket of rice that is nearing it's prime.

David Armstrong
03-21-2013, 04:24 PM
We've solved the rotation/spoilage problem at least in part by looking at the issue two ways: what are the normal short-term needs and what is needed for long-term. We developed it from looking at the local culture, which has often been through a feast and famine process that has colored local cooking. What it amounts to is a wide variety of items with a shorter shelf-life but in limited amounts, then a narrow selection of long-term items to provide a base in large amounts. For example, down here in Cajun country a huge amount of the cooking revolves around a large serving of rice basically flavored with a bit of gravy or sauce. So our long-term storage is rice and flavorings that can store without much need of rotation. Our short-term stuff is always fresh as we don't keep a lot of it and use it regularly, but if SHTF we can easily reduce the consumption of the short-term stuff by changing it to supplementing the rice instead of serving as a major part of the meal. Instead of a 4 ounce side of corn that same 4 ounces serves as an addition to 10 servings of rice with gravy, which might also contain a few ounces of meat.

We like rice as it is local and can be used both as savory and sweet, but pasta would seem to be similar, a long-life product that can serve as the base for flavorings from other products (tomato sauces, alfredo, beef stock, etc.)