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bacpacker
09-02-2013, 03:13 AM
I've been looking at some economic sites the last week or so and this one raised some flags with me. Mortgage rates have went up around 1% or a little more recently. Home sales had been climbing in some areas, but this rate increase has already started having a chilling effect on the market. Normal business is sure to see similar issues soon to follow. If overall rates start climbing it will have a major chilling effect on the economy as a whole.

Here is the article.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100990929?__source=yahoo|finance|headline|headline |story&par=yahoo&doc=100990929|Get%20ready%20for%20a%20%27massive

Get ready for a 'massive interest rate shock' soon

Published: Tuesday, 27 Aug 2013 | 11:26 AM ET
By: Michael Pento




Wall Street and Washington love to spread fables that facilitate feelings of bliss among the investing public.

For example, recall in 2005 when they inculcated to consumers the notion that home prices have never, and will never, fall on a national basis.

We all know how that story turned out.

Along with their belief that real estate prices couldn't fall, one of their favorite conciliatory mantras that still exists today. Namely, that foreign investors have no choice but to perpetually support the U.S. debt market at any price and at any yield.

But, unlike what their mantra claims, the latest data show weakening demand in overseas purchases of Treasurys.
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According to the U.S. Treasury Department, there was a record $40.8 billion of net foreign selling of Treasurys in June. That was the fifth straight month of outflows in long-term U.S. securities. China and Japan accounted for $40 billion of those net Treasury sales.

Those two nations are important because China is our largest foreign creditor ($1.27 trillion), and Japan is close with $1.08 trillion in holdings.

This shouldn't be a surprise to those who are able to accurately assess the ramifications from the Federal Reserve removing its massive bid for U.S. debt.

In truth, yields currently do not at all reflect the credit, currency or inflation risks associated with owning Treasurys.

If the Fed were not buying $45 billion each month of our government bonds, investors both foreign and domestic would require a much higher rate of return. Investors have to be concerned about the record $17 trillion government debt (107 percent of gross domestic product), which is growing $750 billion this year alone.

In addition, holders of U.S. debt must discount the inflation potential associated with a record $3.6 trillion Fed balance sheet, which is still growing at $85 billion each month. Also, foreign investors have to factor into their calculation the potential wealth-destroying effects of owning debt backed by a weakening U.S. dollar.

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Of course, some people may claim that Japan has more debt outstanding as a percentage of its GDP than we do and yet the nation's interest rates are much lower than ours...so what's the problem?

But, unlike the U.S., Japan has a long history of deflation and only 10 percent of its debt is in foreign hands. The U.S. has not enjoyed any such history of deflation and is also a country that has only 50 percent of its debt held domestically.

Therefore, there hasn't been any real concern about foreigners abandoning the Japanese bond market because of a fear that the Yen may collapse.

But the tremendous number of foreign U.S. creditors needs to be constantly vigilant of the dollar's value. However, due to its foolish embracement of Abenomics, Japan will also have to fear a collapse of its debt market from rising inflation in the near future, just as we do here.

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If the free market were allowed to set interest rates and not held down by the promise of endless Fed manipulation, borrowing costs would be close to 7 percent on the 10-year note. Let's face it, the only reason why anyone would loan money to the U.S. government at these levels is because of a belief that our central bank would be there to consistently push prices up and yields down after their purchases were made.

Our central bank has now adopted an entirely new paradigm.

Fed intervention used to be about small changes in the overnight interbank lending rate, which has averaged well above 5 percent for decades. However, not only has the Fed funds rate been near zero percent for the last five years, but also long term rates have been pushed lower by four iterations of quantitative easing.

The latest version is record setting, open-ended and massive in nature.

Since QE is mostly about lowering long-term rates, it shouldn't be hard to understand that its tapering would send rates soaring on the long end.

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When the Fed stops buying Treasurys, foreign and domestic investors will do so as well. This means for a period of time there won't be anyone left to buy Treasurys unless prices first plunge.

The effects of rising rates will be profound on currencies, equity prices, real estate values and economies across the globe.

It would be wise to prepare your portfolio for a massive interest rate shock in the near future.

—Michael Pento is an economist and president of Pento Portfolio Strategies.

Sniper-T
09-02-2013, 04:53 AM
I just renewed my mortgage this past week. and my banker said... "big hikes coming" but when I asked him why, or based on what? he had no answers.

given the tension in Syria, the lenders want to show a strong front at home, want to keep people stable.
If the Syrian tension breaks out into war, then the lender will definately keep the rates stable.

This, IMHO is nothing but fear mongering by the smaller banks trying to get the sheeple to lock in at an inflated rate for a longer period!

Incidentally, I'm at 2.19 for another 6 months... the same as I have been for the last 4+ years, 6 months at a time!

msomnipotent
09-07-2013, 05:20 PM
I would think that rates would have to go up because they couldn't get much lower. I locked in a 7 yr ARM at 2.875% last year. I do worry about when the 7 years are up, but we know we want to get out of here ASAP and we are putting money aside for a down payment, and our area values are finally inching up. I just hope that we get our "forever home" before rates rise back to the historic norm. I read somewhere that the past 40 years averaged 8 or 9%.