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Caveman Survival
09-04-2014, 06:20 AM
Ran across this article today. Maybe you've seen it, maybe you haven't. But I thought its relevant with the world events taking place around us.

"Mysterious Fake Cellphone Towers Are Intercepting Calls All Over The US
JACK DUTTON SEP. 3, 2014, 12:26 PM 30,639 27

REUTERS/Rick Wilking

Seventeen fake cellphone towers were discovered across the U.S. last week, according to a report in Popular Science.

Rather than offering you cellphone service, the towers appear to be connecting to nearby phones, bypassing their encryption, and either tapping calls or reading texts.

Les Goldsmith, the CEO of ESD America, used ESD's CryptoPhone 500 to detect 17 bogus cellphone towers. ESD is a leading American defense and law enforcement technology provider based in Las Vegas.

With most phones, these fake communication towers are undetectable. But not for the CryptoPhone 500, a customized Android device that is disguised as a Samsung Galaxy S III but has highly advanced encryption.

Goldsmith told Popular Science: "Interceptor use in the U.S. is much higher than people had anticipated. One of our customers took a road trip from Florida to North Carolina and he found eight different interceptors on that trip. We even found one at South Point Casino in Las Vegas.”

The towers were found in July, but the report implied that there may have been more out there.

Although it is unclear who owns the towers, ESD found that several of them were located near U.S. military bases.

"Whose interceptor is it? Who are they, that's listening to calls around military bases? Is it just the U.S. military, or are they foreign governments doing it? The point is: we don't really know whose they are," Goldsmith said to Popular Science.

It's probably not the NSA — that agency can tap all it wants without the need for bogus towers, VentureBeat reported:

Not the NSA, cloud security firm SilverSky CTO/SVP Andrew Jaquith told us. “The NSA doesn’t need a fake tower,” he said. “They can just go to the carrier” to tap your line.

ComputerWorld points out that the fake towers give themselves away by crushing down the performance of your phone from 4G to 2G while the intercept is taking place. So if you see your phone operating on a slow download signal while you're near a military base ... maybe make that call from somewhere else.

In an amazing coincidence, police departments in a handful of U.S. cities have been operating "Stingray" or "Hailstorm" towers, which — you guessed it — conduct surveillance on mobile phone activity. They do that by jamming mobile phone signals, forcing phones to drop down from 4G and 3G network bands to the older, more insecure 2G band."

Now, like the article suggests, I doubt that this is the doing of the US government. Hell, they don't have to fake it, they just do it. But it'll be interesting to see who (or what country) would be so bold as to invade the states to spy like this. China? Russia? (Hopefully it is my beloved Great White North, Canada!)

It's suspect that they were found near military bases, so that eliminates (to me at least) corporate espionage or data mining. It just seems to brazen for a homegrown organization to do this.

Now, without bashing democrats/conservatives (one and the same anyways) or bringing partisanship into the mix (general anti-government sentiment is welcomed), I'd love to hear the colony's take or thoughts on this.

Tin foil hats encouraged.

... And go!

Sniper-T
09-04-2014, 10:59 AM
aliens...


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Brownwater Riverrat 13
09-04-2014, 12:35 PM
Aw hell I say just find them and fry them and wait and see who shows up. Then we'll find out who's who in the zoo. Simple covert Op nothing to it, a little recon and sit tight and let it play out. I'm sure there's a few remote one's out there or some in "plain sight" that are easy targets. Send it over to "Oathkeepers" and let them give it a go.

Stormfeather
09-05-2014, 04:42 PM
Not too sure OK's would jump on this, but im pretty sure theres plenty o folks out there willing to! Im doing a drive around my area this weekend and seeing if I can spy any of these since Im close to a military installation.

Brownwater Riverrat 13
09-05-2014, 04:49 PM
Not too sure OK's would jump on this, but im pretty sure theres plenty o folks out there willing to! Im doing a drive around my area this weekend and seeing if I can spy any of these since Im close to a military installation.

Looking forward to the AAR. Be safe.

bacpacker
09-06-2014, 01:42 AM
Anybody got any links to details on these towers? I havent seen pics of them. We have an Army and Air Nationsl Guard bases not far away. I'll have to keep an eye out for them.
I'm willing to bet there are a lot more than 17 around!

Sniper-T
09-06-2014, 02:18 AM
who all has these phones? check them out!!!!

Caveman Survival
09-06-2014, 05:06 AM
A little more very light research from a website called the blaze said that these fake towers aren't necessarily towers and could be devices like this:

http://i1038.photobucket.com/albums/a467/cavemansurvival/D6415C57-EA23-4266-97DA-192878588E53_zpsfkhrl4nr.jpg

The stingray cellular surveillance device. They act as cellphone towers and intercept signals, diverting encryption defences. So you might not spot the tower, but the first article shows you how to identify if your signal is being tapped.

The article can be found here: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/09/04/rumor-check-those-fake-cellphone-towers-youre-hearing-about-arent-necessarily-towers-at-all/

bacpacker
09-06-2014, 03:21 PM
Thanks for the link Caveman.