I just saw what stupidity this world has come to.

[Domeguy]

I’m sorry if I offend anyone here by saying this, as I would hope no one here has bought this. I sat down after coming in to cool down after cutting some fallen trees, and turned on the television. The commercial that then came on had me speechless. It was a commercial selling a new channel on dish network, channel 285, called DOGTV. This is a channel you buy, actually pay money for, for your dog to watch while you are away, so your dog stays entertained and doesn’t get board. It showed a dog watching the TV while on the screen puppies were frolicking in a park. I just don’t get it, so STUPID...now if they had a channel for cats, that would be different.

Ps...call 866-406-6697 to order, or go to www.mydish.com/dogtv

[Katrina]

Dome , They DO have a channel for the kitties. It shows fish swimming and other critters(ie birds) moving around. NO we didn't buy it but it has been offered for the last few years by the cable and satellite companies. Almost as ridiculous as the phone having an app that will call your home and leave messages for the pets or some such nonsense like that.

[Brownwater Riverrat 13]

Our dogs watch DeerTV right off the back porch. It's when the squirrel commercial interrupts and then they go ballistic.

[eagle326]

Our dogs watch DeerTV right off the back porch. It's when the squirrel commercial interrupts and then they go ballistic.

Oh yea ; Claymore thinks he a squirrel dog and when he sees deer in field behind us he goes bat shit crazy.
Now Charlie my small dog thinks squirrels are playmates. The squirrels not so much. They look at him like yep he ain't right.

[Katrina]

Our 2 cats think I had the 2 season room built just for them so they can holler at the birds and the bunnies. DH says they would live out there year round if we'd just put the food and potty box out there LOL

[Gunfixr]

On a pretty regular basis, I either get reminded of why I dropped cable over a decade ago, or get another reason for why doing it was a good idea.

Seems "dogtv" is the latter............

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[Socalman]

Still waiting for GFTV. Gold fish television.

[orangetom1999]

You know we have to much idle time when we have tv channels for our pets.

Orangetom

Not an Ishmaelite.

[Domeguy]

Oh not so my orange friend. We are now SO busy, we don’t have time for our pets...so therefore our good friends at the television stations are looking out for us, and therefore the dog channel is born to take our pets idle time and intertain and teach them for us. I guess soon they will start making television shows to play for our children to intertain and teach them since we are too busy to do it ourselves.

[orangetom1999]

Domeguy,


Oh not so my orange friend. We are now SO busy, we don’t have time for our pets...so therefore our good friends at the television stations are looking out for us, and therefore the dog channel is born to take our pets idle time and intertain and teach them for us. I guess soon they will start making television shows to play for our children to intertain and teach them since we are too busy to do it ourselves.

Years ago....I dated a woman with four children. I noticed when I would stop by after work..on my way home...

I worked graveyard shift...

The children would get up in the morning and watch television..then get ready or dressed in front of the television, eat breakfast cereal in front of the television.
In other words the television was the center of everything.

Now I called this...a drug habit...the children were hooked.

I asked her why she was cooking and cleaning while the children watched television....after she got off work.

The children should be cooking and cleaning while she watched television.

The children should know how to make beds...clean up the house ...do laundry ..take out the trash..

Her job was to get them ready to go out in the world and survive..not get ready for tonights television program.


Public Schooling today has become much about a television and movie education....not reality.

Public Schooling has become like the news and television out here....Tabloid.


Not for me thanks.


What I did for this woman was to go to Radio Shack in those days and get a key switch. I put it in the back of the television and when you turn the key it disconnects the AC voltage from the wall socket. You can push all the buttons you want and nothing happens.

It was like someone took these childrens drugs..they went into withdrawals. It was amazing to watch.

The first mistake this woman made was to give the children options..not responsibilities. They believed that work was optional...between commercials of course.

These children were dumber than pets. They were well on their way to becoming two legged wildlife...with mostly a television and movie education.


How many people out here do you know that when you ask them a question requiring deep thought ...they tend to quote a television program or a movie they have seen????

They have television and or movie thoughts ..television and or movie emotions, television and or movie values and they do not often realize that they are not their own thoughts, emotions, and or values.

Know what is really scary...many of these people are voters!!! Robots controlled by someone else..someone else's thoughts emotions and values.

People are concerned about these new robot/automatons coming out ...no...they are already here..raised on a lifetime of television and movies.

I wont be doing any of that for my pets....I see enough of these robots at work on the clock.
I don't want my pets to become like human robots responding to a television or movie stimulus...or commercial product.


Thanks,
Orangetom

Not an Ishmaelite.

[orangetom1999]

Before I forget...Domeguy and the other members here...

Amuse...Amusement.


A-Without

Muse- to think, ponder, or contemplate.


Amuse/Amusement.

Without thinking......something fed to us to prevent thinking.




This is much of what television and movies has become ...a tool to prevent thinking...Amusement.

Another word for this is "Herding." How to "Herd" people's minds/souls..with the same olde mental and spiritual Xerox Copy...particularly when you need to "Herd" them into a voting booth and they are raised on a steady diet of talk shows...to become an emotional train wreck....they will be guaranteed to vote with their emotions..not by any kind of lucid clear thought...or thinking process.

We often today call them "Snowflakes."


Remember....Amuse/Amusement.


Thanks,
Orangetom

Not an Ishmaelite

[Domeguy]

LOL...good for you. At least you tried with them..but alas, now the TV has been replaced by a smart phone, or as they actually are, a hand held computer that also can make a phone call. I was in AL this weekend getting my wife’s home ready to sell, (will that ever end) and we went over to her sisters home for a game night. Everyone who had a phone was on it, doing something. If they spoke, they never looked up. My wife finally grabbed a few of them out of their hands and said if you are playing, put the phones away. All the teenagers decided to quit the game. I honestly dont think people know what to do without a phone in their hand.

[Gunfixr]

Everybody is of course free to do what they want, but it seems to me that it's not very productive to buy/acquire a pet, pay for its food, various accessories, and upkeep, and then pay for a TV channel to spend time with it because you don't have the time.
I always thought having a pet was supposed to be a mutually beneficial relationship.
I don't have any pets, because I don't have time to spend with them. Every so often, my wife brings up getting a dog. She was not at home much, working, and now that we've moved farther out, she's home even less. So, I point out that she wants a dog i'll have to care for, even though I didn't really want one, nor have the time to properly devote to one. Thanks, but i'll pass.
She has a bird, hardly has time to mess with that.

Yeah, kids these days have nothing to do outside their phones. We had a rule, no electronics during meals. It had to be enforced. Now, they're all adults. So, last couple yrs, everybody is over for Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner. Still have to enforce. After the meal, everyone, including my wife, is on their phones. I'm left sitting in silence, as i'm the only one who thought these holidays were a family social get together.
I break out the rum, bourbon, etc. Later, "all you did was sit there and get drunk". Yeah, I had time to get drunk before you noticed I was drinking. Maybe if I wasn't essentially sitting by myself on Christmas day, that wouldn't have happened.

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[orangetom1999]

Gunfixr,

You'r free to do what you want...even get drunk in your house.

Phones ....like television have become the drug habit of choice for many today.

I have plenty of alcohol at my house...including 6 fifths of Bacardi's 151 as a sort of emergency stash...I chose the high octane stuff for a purpose.

But I do recognize other things than alcohol as drugs on which people have become dependent.

I have a basic flip phone..and it works fine. No need to update. From some of what I have seen these new phones have more bells and whistles than I want to spend time keeping up.

I had room mates at one time years ago...same thing..they got pets and then no time to take care of them.

Lady friend got a hot tub some years back...and then never took care of it...no time...only time for someone else to take care of it so she could just step right in and be "Flashdanced" to ease and comfort.

The "Flashdance " phenomenon only means more work and commitment for me...not an increase in my standard of living.
I have become very wary of that kind of thing now that I am older. I no longer look to running touchdowns for people with great ideas provided someone else "Flashdances" them through life's difficulties. Another version of the "Flashdance" phemonon is Expendability and disposability. Textbook leftist patterns. Making someone else expendable and disposable...for their purposes.
To me that kind of thing has become more of Ishmaelite bondage...for me.

"Oh...what a feeling!!!"


Thanks,
Orangetom

Not an Ishmelite.

[Kesephist]

Yeah, kids these days have nothing to do outside their phones. We had a rule, no electronics during meals. It had to be enforced. Now, they're all adults. So, last couple yrs, everybody is over for Thanksgiving or Christmas dinner. Still have to enforce. After the meal, everyone, including my wife, is on their phones. I'm left sitting in silence, as i'm the only one who thought these holidays were a family social get together.

I break out the rum, bourbon, etc. Later, "all you did was sit there and get drunk". Yeah, I had time to get drunk before you noticed I was drinking. Maybe if I wasn't essentially sitting by myself on Christmas day, that wouldn't have happened.

There is a webcomic called "Schlock Mercenery" set in the 30th century. One of their pet indisposable devices is a thing called a 'handbrain'. It very closely reminds me of a cellphone on steroids.

I've mentioned a rather stupid National Geographic tv movie called "American Blackout" ( https://youtu.be/aNx8UHteFUU , if you really desire to waste the 88 minutes.) Watching the truly cell-addicted go through withdrawal, first as the cells come down, then as the actual phones start to die, would be almost amusing. Except that, as with any other junkie, they are most dangerous when they've missed their fix, and will do anything to get it.

I have a flipphone, and get regularly sniggered at by the kids. My usual reply is "Nice manners. Your mom must have a loud bark." (Thanks, Sgt. Friday.) I DO spend a bit of time talking to a fellow prepper in (location undisclosed by request). But none of this other foolery., and nowhere near as absorbed.

And I have heard that the AMA is considering codifying diagnoses and treatment for CCS... cellular cervical scoliosis. People are spending so much time hunkered over their cells it's damaging their neck vertebrae.

I'd heard, too, that some outfit was coming up with a dock you could put cell in, which would take over a great deal of computing power of the unit, to convert it back to its original form: a wireless phone...the catch being with this dock, you do not need a cell, but the dock IS the cell, and the computing power being taken over used to make a very powerful directional and verbal encryption with other docked phones. Something actually USEFUL, from a comms POV.

Hunting season out here... the locals have a "leave cells at camp/home" rule... so as not to scare off the game with an untimely Bakelite Bell ring tone or some such.

Alexander Graham Bell would either be laughing his 6 off, or PO'ed like a bull buffalo with only other other bulls around, at the shape of what has happened to his device.

[orangetom1999]

Prefer to keep my 2 meter/70 CM two way radio with me ...and spare batteries. If I need more range at work I go to the roof of our 85 foot tall building.

On he road I have a Hf radio as well as VHF/UHF and have talked to Russia and New Zealand from my Truck while waiting in the parking lot of the local grocery store.

Often speak with my friend who recently retired and moved to Tennessee...from here..some 400 miles away and from my base station Ham radio here at the house....no phone calls. The other night we chatted for some 40 minutes before ceding the frequency to other hams who meet on a schedule.
If we need to continue talking we find a clear unused frequency and shift to there...and give up the frequency we were on to other hams for their scheduled meetings. No problem...just simple courtesy and respect.


It is not a phone but I like it better as I can also get AM/FM radio bands on it...as well as all the short wave broadcasting bands and Single Side Band as well.

Phones are convenient...very convenient and natural to tie the phone into the computer systems. But these are complex systems and if any one of several systems go down...you have nothing.

Two way radio I operate at my discretion ..not at the governments discretion....and my power source is independent of them...too.

I keep several car and deep cycle batteries around here as alternate power sources for my radios as well as make my own antennas for my systems.

I also keep several batteries as spares for my simple flip phone.

As a ham ..operating out in the field you become acutely aware of the need for spare batteries.

I also keep five AA type batteries in my pocket for my Mag Light. Buy these by the 40 pack.


Just some things you learn about independent operation.

I like the convenience of the cell phone but am wary of becoming dependent on it.

I will not get a cell phone for which I cannot remove the battery at my discretion...and or replace with a fresh one. Someone did not design the non replaceable battery to help us.




Thanks,
Orangetom

Not an Ishmaelite

[Gunfixr]

I've seen American Blackout.

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[Kesephist]

Part and parcel, I suspect, why these external rechargable battery packs and aa/aaa-to-cell adapters are making such a success story of themselves.

[Domeguy]

I too have a flip phone. I had a smart phone when my son worked at Verizon for a yr, but I gave it up. I never did like the thing, although it did have some very useful features. The GPS did get me to TN to WI and back whiteout a single wring turn. With all of these small devices like phones, IPads, etc. it is nice to have all the info of the world in the palm of your hand. But alas, we are now so used to them as a society, we can’t live without them. Cursive writing is no longer being taught in school as hand writing is so seldom used, you just type on your device. I’m not sure how a signature on paper will work in the future as they won’t know how to sign their name. I’m not sure how everyone else gets on this site, but I use my iPad, and yes, I too am somewhat dependent upon it. I use the internet a lot as I have an inquisitive mind. If I want to do something I know nothing about, I research it as much as possible, certify myself as an expert, then go ahead and do it. I didn’t know how to build a house, so I got books, learned carpentry, electric wiring, plumbing, and built a house. Now I would use the internet, as I have in learning about distilling. I will always try to keep books around like the Foxfire series as a backup, but personal hand held devices are here to stay, will get more and more invasive into our lives, were we will be hooked up to them and be online all the time in the future. Should an EMP happen, we will be in the Stone Age again.

[Gunfixr]

We won't need handwriting to sign on the dotted line before long. You'll just get the chip in your hand scanned.
For those who won't take the chip, you won't be doing anything important enough officially for it to matter.

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[orangetom1999]

I've seen American Blackout.


I have not seen American Blackout...and have no idea what it is...can someone bring me up to date.

Thanks,
Orangetom

[Kesephist]

I have not seen American Blackout...and have no idea what it is...can someone bring me up to date.

Thanks,
Orangetom

A largely unrealistic rendition of a cybernetic attack on the national power grid. Not a Carrington/EMP event. What little credit to it is the accuracy of which in portrays how fast our civil veneer slides off when chips are down. The event is shown as taking only 14 days to recover from, FAR fewer casualties than even the most optomistic estimates, and the apparant attitude of a quick return to a pre-event status quo.

I do ask myself why, why, why would the Grosvenors lend the Society's name and reputation to such crap.

[Sniper-T]

.... I just don’t get it, so STUPID...now if they had a channel for cats, that would be different.

Ps...call 866-406-6697 to order, or go to www.mydish.com/dogtv

*must*not*laugh*

More to come...

[Brownwater Riverrat 13]

Hell and all this time I thought they were talking about the rifle...........:confused:

[eagle326]

Hell and all this time I thought they were talking about the rifle...........:confused:



WHAT!!!!!! Someone confused our Chief ?
Say it ain't so ; Say it ain't so. Linguistic trickery I tell ya. Down the rabbit hole with them I say.



Run Low Drive On

[Brownwater Riverrat 13]

That's what happens when you speed read a thread. might have been the cats tail blocking the rest of the words........

[Gunfixr]

I haven't figured out where you got "about a rifle" in this thread, even speed reading it.
It went from TV channels for pets to watch, to people's addiction to their handheld electronic devices.

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[Brownwater Riverrat 13]

I haven't figured out where you got "about a rifle" in this thread, even speed reading it.
It went from TV channels for pets to watch, to people's addiction to their handheld electronic devices.

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Just being me Gfxr, you know how I can be a bit tilted sometimes (300 blackout) I only have one brain cell left in here and it's arcin and sparkin all the time. Got any jumper cables?

[Gunfixr]

I have several sets, one in each vehicle, and set or two laying about.........

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