Get home boat?

[Sniper-T]

Anyone have any water to cross if bugging out, or getting home if SHTF??

http://www.geekologie.com/2011/08/folding-fabric-canoe-fits-in-a-backpack.php


seems pretty mickey mouse... but it would probably do in a pinch!

check out the video below (on the link) of the freestyle canoeing... wild!

[izzyscout21]

Sniper, your link isnt working.

I have thought about an emergency kayak. I was going to make my wife haul it around.



http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx288/2crgrunt/0803dress8.jpg

[Sniper-T]

fixed. strange.

looks like it is only good for one person. you'll need your own!

post pics of you in one.

:eek:

[bacpacker]

This something that concerns me greatly. I have 2 major rivers to cross between the house and work. My best route will take me just below large dams on each river. They are close enough I could go by the lake if they are spilling or generating. I have 34 miles to go and the rivers are 10-12 miles apart. I have found a portable boat which I don't know how well it would work, but only weights 26 lbs. Another thought was to get 2 of the manually inflatable life jackets with multiple inflater cartridges. That would suck in the winter though. Still searching for a good solution.

[Sparrow]

Sniper, your link isnt working.

I have thought about an emergency kayak. I was going to make my wife haul it around.



http://i764.photobucket.com/albums/xx288/2crgrunt/0803dress8.jpg

LOL where is the skeg? I can see myself drowning pretty quick in that skirt!

Not everyone can do a kayak cartwheel like this guy!


http://www.youtube.com/user/masterofsurvival#p/a/u/0/BP24gYXhGqU

[helomech]

I have 80 miles of gulf to cross in the event of a SHTF situation. This is my get home vehicle.

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii247/helomech1973/IMG_1459.jpg

[Jerry D Young]

Expensive, but should do what is needed very well. Only 10 pounds plus any acceossories you add.

https://www.alpackaraft.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=store.catalog&CategoryID=53&ProductID=87

Just my thoughts on the matter. And the one I intend to get at some point.

[Sparrow]

I have 80 miles of gulf to cross in the event of a SHTF situation. This is my get home vehicle.

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii247/helomech1973/IMG_1459.jpg

Boy, if that is true someone around here isn't a poor! LOLz

Oh look here is helomech!

http://www.clipartguide.com/_named_clipart_images/0511-1001-1706-0228_Rich_Guy_Sitting_on_a_Pile_of_Money_clipart_i mage.jpg

[bacpacker]

Hey Helo, I need a LOAN!
:)

[Sniper-T]

Helo... if the SHTF scenario involves an EMP type event... what are the chances that that thing will even run? do you have a backup plan?

[Sparrow]

Helo... if the SHTF scenario involves an EMP type event... what are the chances that that thing will even run? do you have a backup plan?

That is a good question for Mr. Money-bags!

[helomech]

Boy, if that is true someone around here isn't a poor! LOLz

Oh look here is helomech!

http://www.clipartguide.com/_named_clipart_images/0511-1001-1706-0228_Rich_Guy_Sitting_on_a_Pile_of_Money_clipart_i mage.jpg

I don't own it, I am just paid to take care of it.

[helomech]

Helo... if the SHTF scenario involves an EMP type event... what are the chances that that thing will even run? do you have a backup plan?

It will start, it has a full manual mode. No electronics needed, it would be a pain in the butt to start, but can be done. I have spare parts offshore to do what I need. Other than that, not many options.

[Sniper-T]

Interesting... and good to know, I didn't know there was such a thing as manual mode on them birds. Do you have to spin the rotor to get it going? (I think I remember reading that some small planes would operate this way)

[helomech]

No, the battery and the starter have to work. But both should work in a EMP. The electronics in the aircraft are used in the auto mode. The aircraft will revert to manual mode if anything is wrong with the electronics.

Small aircraft will start by spinning the prop over, but helicopters won't. Helicoters have to be able to free wheel the rotor so you can land in the event of an engine failure (auto rotation). When you spin the rotor of a helicoter the engine does not spin over. Small aircraft the prop is hooked directly to the engine, so by spining the prop you are turning the engine over. And then all you need is fuel, because the magnetos will fire even with no battery power.

[Sniper-T]

Another necro post... but this looks interesting:


http://www.ultraskiff.com/

[Brownwater Riverrat 13]

Yup, it's interesting alright. Looks like a fuckin buoy! Kinda cute and all. but I bet it would be fun just the same in a storm on the lake.

[Stormfeather]

I think off-grid or recoil did a segment about Bug-Out-Boats this month, all in all, I wasnt impressed with their mindset on it. I did a lot of sailing back in the late 80's down in the Carib including running away from hurricane season, and its surprisingly easy to survive on a boat if you have a way of managing your fresh water. Im still a fan of bug out boats, and living near the Ole Miss river, its someth9ng that I have taken into consideration if I need to really get out of dodge.

[izzyscout21]

I've tossed the boat idea around with River Rat a few times. Ive decided I want an HSV. :)

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/2002/HSV1.gif
http://www.texasnative.com/images/hsv-2.jpg
http://www.murdoconline.net/pics/swiftramp1-thumb.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/US_Navy_030525-N-4441P-031_Joint_Venture,_High_Speed_Vessel_Experimental_ One_(HSV_X1)_pulls_a_Special_Boat_Team_(SBT)_Rigid _Hull_Inflatable_Boat_(RHIB)_out_of_the_water.jpg

[Sniper-T]

WOW!!

can I... um... can I be your son?

;)

[bacpacker]

Izzy I want to se where u park that thing!

[Stormfeather]

Ok, count me in Izzy, I see serious potential here. . .

Izzy - Piracy/Counter-Piracy Ops. (yes, I said Piracy Ops! gotta stock & protect the boat somehow!)
BWRR - Captain Steubing USS SHTF
HeloMech - AirOps
Stormfeather - WaterOps via Zodiac/Boston Whaler
Sniper-T - Feline Management Officer
FidelMD - "Doc" aka Medical Officer.




Anyone else want to volunteer?

[Fidel MD]

Sure, I'll run the Medical Department

[izzyscout21]

WOW!!

can I... um... can I be your son?

;)

LOL. Just adopt me. Thats what everyone else does.......seems to be the thing to do.

[izzyscout21]

Seriously..... from what I understand from someone in the know, these suckers can go a lot of places and are extremely versatile, not to mention more affordable than you might think. It's not "make a monthly payment" kind of affordable, but if the prize patrol ever shows at my door, Ima get me one.

[helomech]

You get one, I'll be your mechanic, and a gunner.

[bacpacker]

Hell just tell me what you need me to do!

It does come with its own greenhouse for food production don't it. :)

[Sniper-T]

You get one, I'll be your mechanic, and a gunner.

As Feline Management Officer, I am obviously a gunner as well... Welcome aboard partner!

[mitunnelrat]

I'll work shore duty, how about that?

[bacpacker]

MIT, we'll have to get you a board. Some body's gotta be hurling over the side. :)

[mitunnelrat]

And somebody needs to ensure you have a safe port to return to ;)

I feel no need to hurl without booze in play

[bacpacker]

So true.

[Brownwater Riverrat 13]

OK! OK! "MY" little baby was built in Tasmania. By a bunch "Tazzies" that know how to get pissed. 10 months and 10 milloions bucks all commercial off the shelf shit, CAT mains and genies, four jet drives. One of her nick names is the "Vomit Comet" (just for you MTR) I've had her up to 50knts, 320ft long and 87ft wide. 13ft draft. she'll spin on a dime and needs no assistance pulling in and out of port (tugs). All we did was put our NAVY gear on it with a few mods. It's all aluminum so it's pretty much expendable.......... but we really tried hard to break it. SWIFT is still sailing today.

[Logarius]

But how many skiers can you pull with it?

[Fidel MD]

But how many skiers can you pull with it?

All of them?

[Brownwater Riverrat 13]

Now that was a topic of discussion quite often with every persons first ride. But it was these four jet drives that squirt these columns of water about 3+ feet thick, creating this massive rooster tail that stretches as far as the eye can see Laddy. That, that's what makes ya think about gettin a real long rope!

Cut and paste the link this will give you some general specs.

http://www.incat.com.au/domino/incat/incatweb.nsf/0/E8847AAAF7EC54F7CA2572EC000F91B7/$File/Hull%20061%2098m%20mini%20spec.pdf?OpenElement

[helomech]

I almost got blown off a offshore platform by a 200 foot supply boat with 4 jet drives. I was trying to swing onto the boat and he had the two left engines in reverse and the two right engines in forward trying to fight waves and current. A large swell caused the two right drives to come out of the water and the two very large jets of water barely missed me. Scared the crap out of me, all I could think of was being thrown into the structure with all those barnacles.

[Stormfeather]

Now that was a topic of discussion quite often with every persons first ride. But it was these four jet drives that squirt these columns of water about 3+ feet thick, creating this massive rooster tail that stretches as far as the eye can see Laddy. That, that's what makes ya think about gettin a real long rope!

Cut and paste the link this will give you some general specs.

http://www.incat.com.au/domino/incat/incatweb.nsf/0/E8847AAAF7EC54F7CA2572EC000F91B7/$File/Hull%20061%2098m%20mini%20spec.pdf?OpenElement

Ok, so I like the specs on it, but nowhere in the specs does it give a nautical mile operating range? I went on a wishlist fantasy day where I looked up things I would buy if I ever won the lottery, and a expedition yacht was one of them, usual nautical range on them is around 5000-7500 miles with a standard load of fuel. I figured with the loadout I was planning, I could actually triple that easily by cutting down on amount of people and equipment I would be carrying. Basically Im looking for a rig to get me and all my friends & cohorts to my private island that I plan on buying once I win the powerball lottery! http://www.vladi-private-islands.de/en/island+buy+taiaro-atoll+french-polynesia+pacific-ocean/

[helomech]

Ok, so I like the specs on it, but nowhere in the specs does it give a nautical mile operating range? I went on a wishlist fantasy day where I looked up things I would buy if I ever won the lottery, and a expedition yacht was one of them, usual nautical range on them is around 5000-7500 miles with a standard load of fuel. I figured with the loadout I was planning, I could actually triple that easily by cutting down on amount of people and equipment I would be carrying. Basically Im looking for a rig to get me and all my friends & cohorts to my private island that I plan on buying once I win the powerball lottery! http://www.vladi-private-islands.de/en/island+buy+taiaro-atoll+french-polynesia+pacific-ocean/

Can I be your friend?

[Fidel MD]

Ok, so I like the specs on it, but nowhere in the specs does it give a nautical mile operating range? I went on a wishlist fantasy day where I looked up things I would buy if I ever won the lottery, and a expedition yacht was one of them, usual nautical range on them is around 5000-7500 miles with a standard load of fuel. I figured with the loadout I was planning, I could actually triple that easily by cutting down on amount of people and equipment I would be carrying. Basically Im looking for a rig to get me and all my friends & cohorts to my private island that I plan on buying once I win the powerball lottery! http://www.vladi-private-islands.de/en/island+buy+taiaro-atoll+french-polynesia+pacific-ocean/



Here you go - $3-10 million depending on model. 5-12k NM range, depending on speed.

http://setsail.com/

[Sniper-T]

Can I be your friend?

^
what he said???

[Logarius]

I just want to be able to fill it up wit fuel once!

[Sniper-T]

As in pay out of pocket, or just to stand there with the pump in your hand?

;)

[Logarius]

Be able to afford to fill it once. I'm not sure the marina has that much diesel laying around. Probably need 4" hoses an a Hugh pump too attached to a bigger storage tank. Still, it is neat to dream! Hey does it have a tennis court? Or an indoor shooting range? That would be too cool!

[Sniper-T]

Pretty sure that the main shooting is set up from the outside...
;)

[eagle326]

I'm in. Since I'm probably older than most of you youngin's I'll be the crazy old grandpa of this wild bunch.

Airborne qualified ; paraglide me behind ship with weapon ; radio ; scope for eyes on intell or just for the hell of it.

Saltwater fisherman with the proper or improper explosives ; Depending on how you rock & roll.

Heavy equipment operator who loves to rearrange the landscape.

Purveyor of stories ; tall tales and maybe a few unproven falsehoods just to liven up the stories.

Did I mention I have chickens?

Willing to wound or eliminate anyone who calls my grandchildren liars or thieves. I'm the only one who can tell. And I'm here to tell you they're all fine upstanding humans.

Willing to come aboard if allowed as soon as we get done off loading beer & liquor warehouses.

Will stand down and await your decision Captain.

Oh by the way ; We all know Izzy!! And he'll park that toy anywhere he damn well pleases.

[Stormfeather]

I just want to be able to fill it up wit fuel once!

Here I am with the 33 foot SeaRay Sundancer I bought when I came back from a successful contracting tour in Iraq, It was the biggest boat Ive owned to date, and trust me when I say, the only thing that hurt about that boat was filling it up with fuel at the docks! My end goal is to go bigger and hopefully have it as a option if ever needed. Ive co-captained a 90 sailboat for a few months and that was great, less reliance on fuel made for a fun trip!

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l128/Strmfeathr/Its%20Me/572615456_l.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/Strmfeathr/media/Its%20Me/572615456_l.jpg.html)

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Be able to afford to fill it once. I'm not sure the marina has that much diesel laying around. Probably need 4" hoses an a Hugh pump too attached to a bigger storage tank. Still, it is neat to dream! Hey does it have a tennis court? Or an indoor shooting range? That would be too cool!

The wifes only pre-requisite for the next boat, is that it have a hot tub on it, Im pretty sure I can accomodate that, just have to talk her into letting me get one of those FPB-97's !!!

[helomech]

Damn that is a nice boat.

[bacpacker]

Nice boat stormy.

[Sniper-T]

That's sweet! got any pics of the sailboat?

[eagle326]

A young man from Wayne county Ohio shows that a country boy can survive. ;)
Oh and the wife and I will be going to check out the Wayne County fair here soon as it's better than the big city ones.
Be thinking of you Stormy as we peruse through the fair grounds.

[Brownwater Riverrat 13]

Just researched your FPB-97 there Stormy. Nice fuckin rig. I'm sure you just happened to pull that one out of your ass by natural selection or something? They put alot of research into that puppy, fin stabilizers will help, John Deer mains? Hmmm? OK, bow keel design similar to sailing vessel. A well thought out space plan, clean design. There's one for sale in New Zeland, You buy I'll drive her back for ya. I'll take you along for ballast if you like. Might take a while she only cruises around 11 knots so it might take a few months to get back so now might the time to go get her. While the weather's still good Lad.

[Fidel MD]

Just researched your FPB-97 there Stormy. Nice fuckin rig. I'm sure you just happened to pull that one out of your ass by natural selection or something? They put alot of research into that puppy, fin stabilizers will help, John Deer mains? Hmmm? OK, bow keel design similar to sailing vessel. A well thought out space plan, clean design. There's one for sale in New Zeland, You buy I'll drive her back for ya. I'll take you along for ballast if you like. Might take a while she only cruises around 11 knots so it might take a few months to get back so now might the time to go get her. While the weather's still good Lad.

They're built in New Zealand. The first FPB-97 is still being built. Personally, I think the FPB-78 is a better design (for us). Worth the money, but it is a lot of it.

The designer has a long history of coming up with great long range designs, originally in sail. He and his family have also cruised the world, and written how-to books. His basic design strategy is long and skinny, for efficiency. I sailed (briefly) on a Deerfoot sailboat, and they are long, skinny, and fairly quick for a boat that size. We even thought about buying one, but we're getting a bit old to manage big sails, and the Dashews have some numbers that show their FPB's cost about as much to operate as a sailboat, once you figure in replacement costs of sails and rigging. And with the range they have, strategic fuel purchasing (filling up where/when it is inexpensive) is possible

[Stormfeather]

A young man from Wayne county Ohio shows that a country boy can survive. ;)
Oh and the wife and I will be going to check out the Wayne County fair here soon as it's better than the big city ones.
Be thinking of you Stormy as we peruse through the fair grounds.

I sure miss those fair fries and demolition derbies!

[eagle326]

I sure miss those fair fries and demolition derbies!

Yep; fair fries and deep fried veggies.