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    Can you make those tough decisions?

    Sorry, I did not get to post in the sparrowthread, although I read it and it was closed before I responded...

    But the thread brought back some memories......

    Getting rid of someone from a group, team or whatever, if needed.......How many of us can make that decision during a time of SHTF and remain neutral regardless of the friendship or relationship? I lost a friend many years ago , I spent my Jr high and high school years running with, over a decision to cut him from a team...My decision based solely on the team's needs, he was not a need....I still remember his words...

    Then 20 some years later.....I laid a longtime friend off from his job , who had been an employee of mine for 5 years.......

    In both instances the need was there............Yet each re-acted different.

    My question is............. As a leader or decision maker during a SHTF will you make decisions based on needs or emotion ? Do you have the mindset to do what is necessary based only on the facts...Could you banish a family member/friend who was disrupting your security/mag ? Would you risk the lives of others in your group , team or mag to make sure your elderly mother/father , your child/spouse was comfortable..?

    How would you handle internal conflicts....By group or solely as the leader?

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    I am a heartless SOB. I base my decision on needs for survival only. The law of the fittest (body, mind or value).

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    It is easy to say no problem until that problem faces you squarely. Frankly it sucks but has to be done. Taz when it is personal, family it makes it easier, I'm with you.

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    My parents, despite all the good things they did raising my brother and I, engage in some very unhealthy emotional behaviors. It was best that we go our separate ways and that was one of the harder decisions I've ever made. But it was for the betterment of my wife and child so the decision was made.

    Could I make the same decision again with a team member? I'd like to think so and based on the above I've done it. But ultimately it ain't easy so I can't say "yea fo sho" until the time comes.

    If I'm tasked with leadership I hope I can dig deep and make the tough calls when the time comes.
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    You can say morals may go out the window during some shtf events, but I'm ruled by emotions. Emotions that act on morals.

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    All the risks would need to be weighed carefully. I think each mag should have a president so to speak a leader if you would but the decision making should be in the group not left to one person. I will do anything to protect my family and if a group I am in is heading the wrong direction I will attempt to correct the problem or I will leave. I would banish family or friend that wasnt pulling his or her weight its something I have to mentally prepare for as I have some family that would be more than useless if shtf. I would try and make the kids and elderly comfortable as long as the risk wasnt too high. They deserve some level of normalcy and I have to attempt to give that to them. However that goes out the window when security and lives are at stake.

    Hard decisions are something I deal with all the time at work. I have peoples lives in my hands daily. Depending on the incident I have to decide who lives and who dies. Triage sucks but you cant give care to those who you know are going to die when the next person may be able to survive. Moral of the story is you cant help everyone, and there will be problems but you have got to be majorly tough mentally to overcome. 50% of survival is mental preparation.

    Im not all that, but I have made hard decisions before and I will again if need be. I do not know exactly how I will respond all I can do is hope that I will do what is necessary and what is right. If given a leadership role I will do my best to succeed.
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    Yes and I have had to do it. My oldest son is no longer in my life due to his choices in HIS life. I will not allow people in my life that are unhealthy for me. He has been a disruption even as a child. He has never changed. I won't go into any details but when a kid tells you to go fuck yourself among other things it was just the breaking point. I had another child to think about and refused to allow anyone...I don't care who it was to destroy the harmony that needs to be in the family unit...a MAG or any kind of community runs on the same principal. It's a hard fact of life and some people can't understand how a mother can turn her back on a son but some people just aren't worth saving and dealing with. let them go and disrupt others, I won't allow it. I take a lot of crap and don't like confrontation but once I hit my point all my German comes out and there is no going back. Once I am done with someone I am done.
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    I feel if your on your own then its obviously your decision. I also feel in a mag situation you should not have any one individual in charge. I can say I know a lot of things but I don't know it all. I believe the group should be ran "Round Table" style. Besides, if someone is not carrying his/her load then everyone will know it and have a say. I won't be a part of a "its my way or the highway" leadership and any person that doesn't understand that doesn't deserve my company anyway.
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    I tend to agree with the majority here, There does need to be a person in charge, but decisions should be made as a group. The problem with having one person making all the decisions, if that person may be flawed in thinking or react emotionally to an issue. So I have to agree with one person in charge but decisions made as a group.

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