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    Interesting Solar Hot Water Heater

    From cheaperliving.com and by Bob Wells

    Earthwalker has been living in his Class C RV for thirteen years now. Because he lives in
    sunny Nevada, he wanted to take advantage of the abundant sunshine and live as green
    as possible. This is the story of how he created his own solar hot water system and
    installed a 480 watt solar system. It may look complicated but both systems are easily
    doable by anyone with basic handyman skills. Lets get started!
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    Solar Hot Water
    picture is an overview of the simple.
    he spray-painted black. He choose PVC
    because it is light, cheap, and very
    unlike some plastic pipe, solar hot
    water system. It is very water stored
    20 foot sections and 20 foot sections
    and cut them down to 7 foot sections
    (his to 7 foot sections (his RV is 7 1/2
    foot wide, you would cut foot wide,
    you would cut them to fit your
    vehicle). He your vehicle). He
    estimates that the 8 sections he used
    hold about 4 gallons of water. While
    that is not an abundance, it is enough
    for one person with frugal use. If you
    used 2 inch PVC, you would have 8
    gallons which should be plenty for a
    couple, or extra for one person.
    used basic off-the shelf PVC parts
    available at Home Depot or any used
    basic off-the shelf PVC parts cut the
    PVC and then you just apply available
    at Home Depot or any the cement and
    press the parts hardware store. A
    hand saw will easily together. Print out
    these pictures and take them to Home
    Depot, and a clerk can help you get
    everything you need.
    workbench and then carried them up
    to the roof. In these pictures
    you can see the cargo rack that came
    with his RV. To avoid drilling more
    holes in his roof, the tubes are
    attached to the rack and not to the
    roof. At 8 lbs to a gallon, his 4 gallon
    water system weighs 32 lbs. While
    that's light, it is enough to hold the
    system in place without need for
    elaborate hold-downs.
    Because he used a regular RV 12 volt
    water pump, this is a pressurized
    system, meaning as water is used, the
    pump automatically replaces it. At the
    end I will tell you how to make a
    without water tanks or RV water pump.

    In these pictures you can see the
    three tubes feeding into and out if
    the system. The yellow hose on the
    left is cold water coming in from the
    pump. The white hose in the middle is
    hot water going out to the RV to be
    used. So the water comes in from the
    left and is pumped back and forth
    through the tubes to the outlet hose
    on the right. Because the tubes are
    painted black, they get very hot in the
    Nevada sun, heating the water in them.

    The reddish hose was a first attempt
    at a drain that didn't work. The drain
    is important in winter if you run into
    freezing weather.
    In the picture to the left
    you can see the drain
    that did work. He cut a
    splice into the tube at
    far left. In the picture
    to the right you can see
    the drain tube running
    down the back of the RV
    so it is easily opened and
    closed to drain the
    system.
    The system works extremely well. Under the summer sun it will warm the of
    the water, it will be hot again about an hour later. However, in the winter it
    does not work as well. The water does not heat up much above the outside
    temperature, which in December through February is in the 50s and 60s. That
    doesn't get the water hot enough to use, so he just drains the system in those
    months.

    As I am writing this he is designing a new system to solve this problem. He will
    take the old system down and install a whole new one, but this time it will be
    enclosed in a box to capture and hold the weak winter sun. The bottom of the
    box will be 3/8th inch plywood cut large enough to hold the tubes. The side
    walls will be either 1x3s or 1x4s, depending on whether he uses 1 inch or 2 inch
    pipe. On top will be a sheet of acrylic or Lexan to let the light and heat in and
    to retain it. The tubes will be painted black as before. He isn't sure what to do
    with the inside of the box. He's certain he will paint the bottom and sides with
    Elastometric, a thick white paint used on trailer roofs to seal and keep heat
    out (in this case it will seal the joints and keep heat in). One option is to cover
    the bottom and sides with aluminum foil to reflect the light and heat onto the
    black tubes. Another, and probably best, option is to line the inside of the box
    with a product called Reflectix. It has two very heavy layers of aluminum foil
    on the outside and has a type of bubble-wrap in-between for insulation. This
    would reflect the light/heat onto the tubes and also retain the heat in the box.
    What is unknown is if the Reflectix can hold up in the high temperatures the
    box will generate in the summer. When the new system is in place, I will update
    this article.

    A Gravity Fed System:
    Earthwalker lives in an RV so it was easy to adopt it to a solar hot water
    system. He already had fresh water tanks and a 12 volt pump. But most of us in
    vans or campers don't have those, so how can we copy his idea? Actually, it
    isn't hard at all. Where he is using a pump to force water through the tubes, we
    will use gravity. His tubes are lined up in a level row, but we will line ours up at
    an angle so that when we pour water in from the top water inlet, gravity will
    pull it down to the outlet at the bottom. Here is an exaggerated side view of
    the tubes to explain what I mean:
    O <--System filled with water from the top.
    O
    O Gravity pulls it down, going back and forth through the tubes,
    O where the sun heats it up.
    O
    O <--Water drains from system from bottom.
    draw a line from the top right corner to the bottom left corner. Next dry wide
    apart the holes in the 1x4 need to be. Then draw 2 inch circles centered on our
    diagonal line, spaced the right distance apart. The longer the 1X4 is, the more
    tubes you can get in it. I would run the tubes across the back of the van, so
    they will be about 5 1/2 feet wide. I would start with a 1X4 about 4 foot long
    to see how many tubes it will hold. You may find you need a 1x6 instead. Getting
    the design figured out will take some trial and error. You can practice on
    cardboard first so you don't waste wood. When you are sure of the lengths,
    get a hole saw and cut out the circles on the wood, and that is the framework
    to hold the tubes in their right spots.

    For a van you will probably want to use 2 inch PVC tubes to offset the
    narrower width of a van. More water in the system will weigh more, pushing
    down with greater force and pressure. If you use it for a shower, you want all
    the pressure you can get when rinsing your hair.








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    GunnerMax
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    Having seen over 42 countries so far, I have noticed that the people in the desert/equatorial climates put tanks of water above their house. this serves two purposes: with gravity, they always have water pressure, and the sun hits the tank during the day and heats the water. It requires no energy.

    also, did he say the cost of this system? just wondering

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