The world around us: Supreme Court Rulings

[The Stig]

Brother Izzy and I were discussing the recent Supreme Court rulings and our, shall we say, bitter disappointment with them, last night. Our discussions involved a myriad of political aspects of the rulings which we will clearly not be delving into here.

But we also both felt there were a bunch of different angles related to prepping that might encourage interesting discussion here at the colony.

For example, the health care ruling....

Holistic medicine/home remedies: How comfortable are you with these? Do you have stocks on hand to treat minor ailments? Can you take care of yourself in the event going to your GP is too expensive/too long of wait?

First aid/emergency trauma medicine: How comfortable are you with treating emergency trauma like accidents? Do you have supplies on hand? Do you know how to use them? Have you ever treated someone else's wounds in a stressful situation? If the impact on the health care system is what is likely to happen the chances of needing to care for yourself will greatly increase. Are you ready?

Are you planning now for the possible (read: highly likely) sky rocketing costs of medical care in the future? Are you reviewing your budgets and possibly saving money for future medical costs? If your current coverage suddenly went away would you be able to afford your own non-employer provided coverage?

In Izzy and my opinion, the healthcare debate is likely to become the next "social issue" ala civil rights for Blacks in the '60s or immigrants melting into American society in the 1800's. Like those situations we're both confident protest marches, violence, and general upheaval are possible. What are you doing to plan for this? Does this change any of your current plans? How does this impact your situational awareness should a "health care march" be going on in your hometown?

These are just a few aspects of the ruling that had a direct impact on prepping and we felt could generate some great discussion.

We are both confident the colony can stay on topic and focused on the prep related aspects of the recent Supreme Court rulings and not stray into political discussions.

What say you? How have these rulings impacted your prepping plans, if at all?

[Stg1swret]

For right now it has no impact. I'm awaiting the November poll results before I start worrying. If the results are dismall, I worry then. the main parts of the ACA don't kick in until 2014, so we all have a little breathing room.

[Echo2]

It will effect everyone in more ways than we can possibly begin to fathom.

There are so many things in this bill that have nothing to do with healthcare....

Not to mention this will cost us a fortune....like the country can afford it.

This may be a way to "tax" us in to oblivion.....but it's not a tax.....but it is a tax....but not....????

It's like the Fast and Furious.....how can you use executive privilege....if you claim to have never knew anything about it from the get go.

This is going to be the largest kick in the nuts this country has been exposed to in it's life time.

Because the same folks are in charge of dispersing our healthcare that run the DMV.

Oh joyous occasion.

[IDTANDY]

It's going to be interesting 129 days.
Sure looks like judicial activism.
The Health-Care Law's Mandate: A Tax on Young Americans?

"As Chief Justice Roberts put it, “the mandate can be regarded as establishing a condition — not owning health insurance — that triggers a tax — the required payment to IRS."

The big but, it didn't include it under the commerce act.

[Echo2]

every union is asking for exceptions to this.....wonder why?

[eagle326]

I for one am woefully lacking the major parts for medical. With that said ; my wife went to our doctor the day the ruling came down and asked the wife where I was as I'm usually with her. He said he needed to talk to me badly about this.

He took care of the wife and she delivered the message. Now him and I've talked ; He is a staunch conservative in the old ways as am I. I made no bones or secret of where I stand on issues. We've talked in office on many subjects and he's asked for advice and I give it to him . I told him the day may come if it passed that I may have to barter chickens ; eggs or meat for payment just to see where he was in time. He said he'd be willing to work something out if it comes to that. Most of his office people that are close also want in on it including the nurse practioners whom I had long conversations with.

They have talents I don't and I have talents they don't. I've been working at getting them on board which wasn't hard as they know my past history. Since the SCOTUS let Obamacare survive I'm going to take it to the next stage and feel him out on stockpiling medical supplies. He's hinted at it and now is the time to draw him out. If I can work this it may hopefully benefit not just myself but the colony also as they know people in other areas. I'm going to see if I can get a list of things he thinks important for me to get that I can pick up. He looks to me for weapon information ; stockpiling and ways to secure things.
So hopefully we can work something out and any info. given that can be used by us all will be delivered to this site.

As for other remedies I'm open to them. My grandma had old natural remedies she used on us as kids and many worked just fine.
Never tried holistic but I'm game. The mind is a great weapon when it comes to most common illnesses. As a side note ; People were living just as long as some of us today. Sometimes the old ways are better. All forms of remedies and healing should be considered.

[izzyscout21]

While I dont want to delve into the political aspects of this, you guys may want to check this out. I found it a very good read. We can discuss it somewhere else.

Articles: The Chief Justice Done Good

[Echo2]

While I dont want to delve into the political aspects of this, you guys may want to check this out. I found it a very good read. We can discuss it somewhere else.

Articles: The Chief Justice Done Good

interesting read....I wonder if it is a ticking time bomb for other legislation?

[Kutter-0311]

Great article, and well written. Sadly, the comments section is full of people blowwing off steam who obviously don't understand the article, or our nation's constitution. I know they don't go real in-depth in school, folks, but read a fricken book!

[izzyscout21]

This "tax" affects us in many more ways than most people realize. I'm planning accordingly. Unfortunately, while I think this would be a great discussion, I'm going to try to steer away from the political aspects here on the forum. I know it's hard to separate the two sometimes, but bear with me


Since the decision was handed down, this is how it affects my prepping:

1.) More ammo.

I see full potential for civil unrest/violence under a wide array of scenarios. PM me for a list. I'm not getting into it here.

2.) More medications.

I'm going to have to find an alternate source/ natural alternative to many of the critical meds in the household. I see costs going up......

3.) More food.

Lots of food. Why? Prices on everything else are going to go up...why not the food?