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    Superbugs

    This isn't a medical discussion per se as much as it is a theoretical conversation................

    Browsing online today, I found several articles about "superbugs".....everything from MRSA to new strains of gonorrhea.



    Take this one for example:

    http://www.naturalnews.com/031859_su...ing_homes.html

    (NaturalNews) Move over methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA), there is a new "superbug" in town. Reports from CBS 2 in Los Angeles say that a deadly new bacteria known as CRKP is rapidly making the rounds in hospitals and care facilities throughout Southern California. According to reports, the bacteria has no known cure, and it may never have one.

    CRKP, also known as Carbapenem-resistant Klebsiella pneumoniae, is not actually a new superbug. As early as 2006, it was known to have spread throughout an Israeli hospital, and shortly thereafter to every hospital in Israel (http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/554704). And now, it is becoming a serious problem worldwide.

    ABC 7 in Los Angeles quotes its own Dr. Richard Besser who stated that CRKP is "very fatal" and that it kills roughly 40 percent of people who contract it (http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?se...lth&id=8034776). And reports indicate that 350 people in the Los Angeles area already became infected with CRKP within a seven-month time frame last year.

    Some experts are blaming a lack of new antibiotic drug development as the reason why CRKP and other superbugs are allegedly incurable. But inquiry into superbugs has actually revealed that overuse of antibiotics is to blame for their existence in the first place, whether it is humans taking too many antibiotics for minor ailments, or factory farmers giving them to animals to accelerate their growth and cover up filthy, disease-ridden conditions.

    Last year, a study published in the journal Science revealed that superbugs appear to be the direct descendants of mutated bacteria created as a result of the introduction of synthetic antibiotic drugs. By analyzing the course of mutation of MRSA over the years, scientists were able to pinpoint antibiotics and their overuse as the primary culprit (http://www.naturalnews.com/028479_su...tibiotics.html).

    When taken by humans, antibiotics actually destroy all the good bacteria in the gut along with the bad, which ends up destroying proper immune function. Without balanced and healthy gut flora, the body is essentially crippled from being able to ward off harmful pathogens, including deadly superbugs (http://www.naturalnews.com/superbugs.html).



    so I guess my question is this:

    What steps can we take to prevent contracting such illnesses?
    Is it as simple as washing hands and avoiding contaminated people?


    I think that we will start to see more and more of these...................
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    Nope, there's more to it than that.

    start by watching something like "Contagion"

    full suits, positive airflow etc, with decontamination washes (series) is your best bet.

    Unfortunately, that doesn't help the general populace much.

    so in addition to washing and avoiding people, you need to avoid anything they touched over the previous few days, as many bugs can live on hard surfaces (and of course soft) long after the sourse is gone. have gloves and masks ready, as well as goggles and full cover clothes (tyvek suits) If someone is contaminated with a super bug, just standing near to them without your eyes covered, you could contract certain things through the mucus membranes around your eyes, or even through your eyes themselves. avoid all cuts, and exchanges of bodily fluids.

    Make sure you have a variety of antibiotics on hand, in case something has built a tolerance to one, you can try something else. Remember, that antibiotics will do nothing against anything viral.

    work on your general health, eat your wheaties and your vitamins. you are more suseptable to any infection when you are run down. treat injuries and sicknesses quickly and decisively. don't allow a 'common cold' to linger, as it knocks down your immune system and you are more likely to develop something worse (Think how many people start with a cold, and then get pneumonia)

    This is a scary, and completely realistic scenario. With the way people travel these days, a bug from africa can be on all 8 corners of the globe in a matter of days, and then to every nook and cranny within a week.

    Oh, and my wife used to work in level 4 containment in our equivalent to your CDC. Scary stuff!
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    To me beans, bullets and band-aids will be easier. Medical issues will be major problems for us all.
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    You can also keep on hand colloidal silver available here

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    Agreed. It's not like we can walk around in full hazmat every day.

    Can't avoid going places either. What scares me is that you may not know you've been exposed until you are exposed.
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