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    Middle East news

    Folks I am gonna post this in the hopes it will stay a discussion of current events and ways we can keep an eye out and prepare for what may come from these topics. As much as I want to go down the tin-foil route on this, I am going to do my best to refrain and ask that each of you do the same.

    First of all, we have stories like the one below. Even with all the issues surrounding Iran finally building a nuclear weapon, our leader has apparently determined that campaining for re-election is more important that meeting with the leader of our closest ally in the Middle east. I can't recall anytime in my life of our president refusing to meet with the leader of Israel. On top of that in nearly 4 years he has not once made a trip to Israel. That to is something i don't recall.

    http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPol...aspx?id=284709

    US: No time for Obama-Netanyahu meeting
    By HERB KEINON, TOVAH LAZAROFF
    LAST UPDATED: 09/11/2012 23:40

    Announcement follows Netanyahu declaration that those who don't place "red lines" on Iran, have no right to give Israel a "red light."
    Netanyahu and Obama. Photo: Jim Young/ Reuters

    For the first time since taking office, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu is slated to visit the United States without meeting US President Barack Obama. The lack of a meeting later this month comes in the midst of roiling tensions between Jerusalem and Washington over setting red lines for Iran’s nuclear program.

    Some have seen the absence of a face-to-face conversation as a further sign of strain in the relationship.

    A White House official said he did not have a final schedule for the president for that week. His response left open the possibility that a last minute meeting could be added to the agenda.

    A request from Netanyahu’s office to meet with Obama in Washington as part of the prime minister’s trip to the United Nations in New York later this month was rejected for scheduling reasons, an Israeli official said Tuesday.

    Netanyahu, however, is expected to meet with other senior US officials in New York, including Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

    When asked about the White House’s refusal to schedule a meeting between Netanyahu and Obama, an official there noted that the two leaders would be visiting New York at different times.

    News that the two might not meet came after tensions between Jerusalem and Washington over Iran burst into the open on Tuesday when Netanyahu attacked the US’s policy on Tehran at a joint press conference in Jerusalem with visiting Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Metodiev Borisov.

    Netanyahu said that those who do not place “red lines” in front of Iran have no moral right to put a “red light” in front of Israel when it comes to military action.

    Netanyahu’s words came in the wake of statements by Clinton on Sunday, and State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland on Monday, that the US had no intention of putting either red lines or deadlines in front of the Iranians.



    Secondly, we have many stories about this. After we spent billions of dollars and most of last summer/fall helping these idiots over throw the leaders of their country, how do they repay us? Attack our embassies and kill some of our diplomats. This on 9/11 no less. After watching and reading some info on this, I learned today that the facility in Libya was unguarded by Marines. I thought the standard procedure was for all state embassies be guarded by Marines. Has that changed recently?
    Apparently there had been chatter on impending attacks at facilities in various countries that went unheeded.

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/09...wall-in-cairo/


    State Department officer killed in attack on US Consulate in Libya, following Egyptian protest at US embassy

    Published September 12, 2012

    Associated Press

    URGENT: A Untied States envoy and three others were reportedly killed in an attack on the American embassy in Libya, unconfirmed reports say.

    Protesters angered over a film that ridiculed Islam's Prophet Muhammad fired gunshots and burned down the U.S. consulate in the eastern Libyan city of Benghazi, killing one American diplomat, witnesses and the State Department said. In Egypt, protesters scaled the walls of the U.S. embassy in Cairo and replaced an American flag with an Islamic banner.

    It was the first such assaults on U.S. diplomatic facilities in either country, at a time when both Libya and Egypt are struggling to overcome the turmoil following the ouster of their longtime leaders, Muammar Qaddafi and Hosni Mubarak in uprisings last year.

    The protests in both countries were sparked by outrage over a film ridiculing Muhammad produced by an American in California and being promoted by an extreme anti-Muslim Egyptian Christian campaigner in the United States. Excerpts from the film dubbed into Arabic were posted on YouTube.

    U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton confirmed that one State Department officer had been killed in the protest at the U.S. consulate in Benghazi. She strongly condemned the attack and said she had called Libyan President Mohammed el-Megarif "to coordinate additional support to protect Americans in Libya."

    Clinton expressed concern that the protests might spread to other countries. She said the U.S. is working with "partner countries around the world to protect our personnel, our missions, and American citizens worldwide."

    "Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet," Clinton said in a statement released by the State Department. "The United States deplores any intentional effort to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. Our commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear: There is never any justification for violent acts of this kind. "

    In Benghazi, a large mob stormed the U.S. consulate, with gunmen firing their weapons, said Wanis al-Sharef, an Interior Ministry official in Benghazi. A witness said attackers fired automatic weapons and rocket-propelled grenades at the consulate as they clashed with Libyans hired to guard the facility.


    Again folks, please keep your eye on the ball.

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    Here is one additional story.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1877829.html


    U.S. Embassy Protests: Embassies In 7 Countries Warn Of Possible Attacks

    By MATTHEW LEE 09/12/12 01:41 PM ET AP

    WASHINGTON — U.S. embassies in at least seven countries in the Middle East, Africa and the Caucasus are warning of possible anti-American protests following the attack on the consulate in Benghazi, Libya that killed the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other Americans.

    The embassies in Armenia, Burundi, Kuwait, Sudan, Tunisia and Zambia, along with the embassy in Egypt, which was hit by a protest on Tuesday, all issued warnings on Wednesday advising Americans to be particularly vigilant.

    The warnings, posted on the embassies' websites, do not report any specific threat to Americans but note that demonstrations can become violent.

    The protest in Cairo and the attack in Benghazi appear to have been responses to an inflammatory anti-Muslim video posted on the Internet.
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    To say that the Middle East is a mess would be an under statement, We have two embassies attacked, the Israeli's are being told to sit tight, and iran keeps going on with their nuke program. It won't take long before another hot war starts. We lost 4 people in Libya, and I doubt seriously that the two attacks weren't coordinated. The radical muslims went looking for an excuse and found one. The big question is what are we going to do about it. I hate to say it but the current administration are a bunch of gutless cowards. There is going to be more of this coming. It wasn't like there weren't warning signs for days before this happened.
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    I tend to agree. I also have to wonder if something along these lines weren't considered during the Muslim Spring last year. I never could figure out how we came to support the Muslim brotherhood and their backers. It just doesn't make sense to me.

    As to what I am, or considering doing right away due to this.
    1) Remove some of the funds we have in the bank and dispurse
    2) Add more foods to the larder.
    3) Try to get the Ar build completed sooner than i had planned.
    4) Add more ammo, .308 in particular.
    5) Add more reloading supplies.
    6) Complete rotating my fuel stocks.
    7) Add to my diesal fuel stocks.

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    I wont lie this all has me concerned. However Im pretty well settled in my preps right now. Bought some more food and am trying to pay down some debt. Also Im scheduling my ASVAB and may be joining the National Guard here soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by apssbc View Post
    I wont lie this all has me concerned. However Im pretty well settled in my preps right now. Bought some more food and am trying to pay down some debt. Also Im scheduling my ASVAB and may be joining the National Guard here soon.
    Good, they're going to need somebody up there with the keys to the armory to pass out the weapons and ammo to the civilians. HOO-YAH!

    Be safe.............the night is your friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apssbc View Post
    Also Im scheduling my ASVAB and may be joining the National Guard here soon.
    LOL............I just happen to be the guy that administers the exam................not in your AO, of course................
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    The attack had nothing to do with the trailer of the movie coming out. They were well organized and planned for the 11th which says that this was not done in a day or 2, they would not have seen this movie beforehand. That was just an excuse by the PTB to throw off what is really going on because that would take some balls to stand up and call it like it is.
    I agree with BP about stepping up the preps. Really stepping them up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ladyhk13 View Post
    The attack had nothing to do with the trailer of the movie coming out. They were well organized and planned for the 11th which says that this was not done in a day or 2, they would not have seen this movie beforehand. That was just an excuse by the PTB to throw off what is really going on because that would take some balls to stand up and call it like it is.
    I agree with BP about stepping up the preps. Really stepping them up.
    LadyHK, I agree with you. I watched the trailer this morning just to see what all the hoopla was about. It was silly, but the extremist muslims don't need much of an excuse or reason to riot against and kill Americans. Mr. O needs to cut off funds to the terrorists. He gave $1.3 billion of our tax payer money to the muslim brotherhood in Egypt since last year and the $300 million to the Libyans. While he's at it, stop the billions to Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bacpacker View Post
    I tend to agree. I also have to wonder if something along these lines weren't considered during the Muslim Spring last year. I never could figure out how we came to support the Muslim brotherhood and their backers. It just doesn't make sense to me.

    As to what I am, or considering doing right away due to this.
    1) Remove some of the funds we have in the bank and dispurse
    2) Add more foods to the larder.
    3) Try to get the Ar build completed sooner than i had planned.
    4) Add more ammo, .308 in particular.
    5) Add more reloading supplies.
    6) Complete rotating my fuel stocks.
    7) Add to my diesal fuel stocks.
    BP, Good ideas. I think many are on the same page and are stepping up preps and plans. Got several calls today from some folks that are worried that things are moving faster than they thought they would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie51 View Post
    BP, Good ideas. I think many are on the same page and are stepping up preps and plans. Got several calls today from some folks that are worried that things are moving faster than they thought they would.
    Yep...that's the practical application of this sort of news. How does it effect our preps.

    Have you invited those folks to join the site?
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