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    Celox for burns

    Has anyone used Celox for burns? Thanks ahead of time.

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    Good question. I have started seeing it around different places and wondered about it.

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    Celox us a hemostatic clotting agent. It is meant to be used for the control of severe bleeding. Putting it on a burn doesn't make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by izzyscout21 View Post
    Celox us a hemostatic clotting agent. It is meant to be used for the control of severe bleeding. Putting it on a burn doesn't make sense.
    this... Celox would have no effect on the burn itself... third degree burn with massive tissue damage and lots of bleeding? eh... maybe... But I would still attempt other methods of bleeding control first.
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    I have to agree with Twitchy and Izzy. Its made for heavily bleeding wounds, even then I would use it last resort post shtf. I cant dig up any use for it with burns.
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    Guys it is now used for burns too. Since it will soak up fluid, you pour saline on it and then put it on the wound. It will absorb up to 320 ml of saline or 430 ml of water. It is now multi purpose but I have not heard how it is working out in the field yet.


    http://www.sammedical.com/celox_trauma_gauze.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by realist View Post
    Guys it is now used for burns too. Since it will soak up fluid, you pour saline on it and then put it on the wound. It will absorb up to 320 ml of saline or 430 ml of water. It is now multi purpose but I have not heard how it is working out in the field yet.


    http://www.sammedical.com/celox_trauma_gauze.html
    Ill clarify. Its is advertised to soak up saline to "cool first and second degree burns"

    Cooling third degree or partial thickness burns can lead to hypothermia, vasoconstriction and ultimately necrosis of the ischemic tissue

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    I'm still leery of putting anything other than conventional treatment on a burn. You soak up fluid with a burn dressing, which then sticks to the patient, or you pour celox granules on a burn, which then stick to the patient after "clotting". Either way, something sticks. I just dont see the benefit.

    From personal experience, the docs HATE trying to clean all those granules from a wound.
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    Quote Originally Posted by izzyscout21 View Post
    I'm still leery of putting anything other than conventional treatment on a burn. You soak up fluid with a burn dressing, which then sticks to the patient, or you pour celox granules on a burn, which then stick to the patient after "clotting". Either way, something sticks. I just dont see the benefit.

    From personal experience, the docs HATE trying to clean all those granules from a wound.
    Have to agree,besides when the gauze sticks to the burn you promote granulation,which is part of the healing process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by izzyscout21 View Post
    I'm still leery of putting anything other than conventional treatment on a burn. You soak up fluid with a burn dressing, which then sticks to the patient, or you pour celox granules on a burn, which then stick to the patient after "clotting". Either way, something sticks. I just dont see the benefit.

    From personal experience, the docs HATE trying to clean all those granules from a wound.
    Not sure I understood the first part of that... In my experience, burn dressings are moistened in Sterile Saline solution to moisten the surrounding tissue to stop the burning process and keep the less damaged tissue moist to prevent other ailments...
    It is, of course, obvious that speed, or height of fall, is not in itself injurious ... but a high rate of change of velocity, such as occurs after a 10 story fall onto concrete, is another matter.

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