New vehicle options

[Metrocruiser]

I would buy Toyota over Chevy.
I would pretty much buy a Toyota over any other brand in almost all circumstances.

[Vodin]

I would suggest going used.

New
1> Higher Insurance Rate
2> Higher Repair/Part Cost
3> Higher License Fee
4> Possible parts not in quantity due to the newness
5> Noticed more since its new (consider crime)
6> Electronics harder to personally fix
7> Accidents happen and insurance companies are there to make money
8> if SHTF and it was EMP is it still useable?

I bought a Toy 4Runner new in 2006. It was a good choice then. And I still have it now. I am screwed if anything comes down the line. Reasons are many, I keep it flawless (appearance functionality) I would become a prime target.

Used
1> The overall cost (besides fuel) is less
2> When ever you need to repair you improve your vehicle.
3> Depending on the type no issues with parts availability.
4> Accident? Not a huge amount lost and you have extra to buy another since you didn't buy new.

Either way it is your choice. Keep in mind the mood of the nation, your needs and what you have to fall back on. A vehicle is only 1 item pay a lot for that 1 item.

Rule 3 is 2, 2 is 1 and if you only have the one?

[ElevenBravo]

The amount of money that it would take to flat out buy a new vehicle, would be a sizeable chunk towards some land you can camp, fish, hunt & maybe live on...

Land ownership is the only real measure of wealth anymore... At least you own something, even if you do have to pay the yearly gov rent on it...

EB

[adapt619]

Very good points. Its just not that easy to buy land out here in san diego. Especially land that you can escape to in crisis

[Possom]

If I were you I would use the money to buy land anywhere but in California and move to that land. California is a bane on the rest of the USA.

[adapt619]

If I were you I would use the money to buy land anywhere but in California and move to that land. California is a bane on the rest of the USA.

Please elaborate

[Possom]

Just a few points. There are more then what's listed for sure.

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/a...ate-in-america

[Possom]

I prefer to live in a place where I can make my own decisions without having to ask for government permission. I prefer living in a state where 40% of my income doesn't end up in the state government coffers.

If I had to pick a state in the union to live in it would be Texas or Arkansas or Oklahoma. Much less interference in your life. Cost of living is considerably lower.

[adapt619]

Can't argue with any of that. I have family in texas who live like kings making the same amount of money that I do. Thinking about moving to texas. Just so I have a bettet understanding, what kind of things do californiacalifornians need to ask permission from the government for?

[Possom]

http://o.dailycaller.com/all/2014-01...fect-january-1

This

http://www.dmv.org/ca-california/smog-check.php

And this

http://www.cslb.ca.gov/consumers/hir...quirements.asp

And this for starters.

I'm sorry I derailed your thread. Wasn't my intention. I feel for those stuck in California. They are steadily losing their freedoms.

I prefer to live in a place where I still have the freedom to do as I please in most cases.