Give a man fire, and he'll be warm for a day!
Light a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life!
Cat's are food... not friends!
If you're going to fight, then fight like you're the third monkey on the ramp into Noah's arc... and brother, it's starting to rain.
lol, sorry. spouting off what seems relevant to the discussion as I research more and more. Bad habit of mine. I wish I could talk to people who actually use it and not just train on it/produce it.
The problem with those of us that have used it, is that we do not get to see the after-effects of its use. I have used Celox, QuikClot, both in granule form, and the Quikclot in both granule and gauze form, and it works at stopping bleeding, but as far as what is done with it once the person is medvac'ed, well, I have no experience in that aspect.
RELIGION IS LIKE A PENIS
Its fine to have one,
Its fine to be proud of it,
But please dont whip it out in public and start waving it around,
And PLEASE dont try to force it down my children's throats.
An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.
When i went through the TCCC course the first time a few years ago it was explained why granules were ditched, as well as the thermobaric version of CQ. They explained this by showing the history. First someone observed how pouring instant mashed potatoes into something would quickly soak up the blood and expand. This helped accelerate clotting. Then Quick Clots thermobaric effect granules went into use. During this use, it went blowing all over getting in eyes causing issues. The long term negative of this was when people who had the granules poured in a wound had blood clots as a result of it getting in the blood stream and clotting arteries. Hence the impregnated gauze that is the only way approved by the CoTCCC currently.
When the thermobaric effects of old QuicClot were complained about, Celox's non thermobaric product gained ground. Now both companies and North American Rescue sell Hemostatic infused gauze that is non thermobaric.
I personally do not have any granules, nor do I recommend it since my training and instructors in TCCC have all made it clear the negatives to using it.
Happy to hear you are trained in your listed classes. Since I didn't see anything in your original post I threw that training line out, like I do whenever replying to medical questions.
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