Im a lot like Sniper, except for Beefaroni instead of peas...
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This is something I've struggled and prayed about. How far is too far? Scavenging abandoned buildings, be it a church or an office is one thing, stealing from others to survive ??? I know deep down inside me I would do anything to protect my family, if attacked but to deliberately seek out others to kill and steal from them to survive, I don't know if I could go that far. I guess in the long run we really don't know what we will do until faced with a total SHTF situation. Each of us will have to make decisions based on how we were raised, our self preservation instincts and how we've prepared so far and who we're with.
Up front I will say that I have no idea what I will do given a severe SHTF situation. Never been faced with anything approaching that before. I can think and plan all I want, and have at times, but until I'm up against it it'll be nothing more than my best guess.
That said, I would do anything I had to be able to protect my family. This also applies to any friends I have who I feel would do the same for me.
I think..oh no that once bugs and mice start running low it would become a situation of survival. If my family or I am in need I would start to focus on what is available. Lets be honest here only those like us will be in the 2nd quarter, I would then focus on those that have questionable tactics. In the 3rd quarter it would become a borderline call I would consider my pets. 4th quarter..
I dont have a god to travel to after I die. So I will fight hard for every breath I can take and my wife is on the pedestal so she will receive anything I can provide. She stood by me when I was in a questionable position, I can only try to do what she has already done for me.
Like bacpacker I have no idea what I'd do in a shtf scenario... But I do know what I am capable of. In another lifetime I was one of your prototypical pieces of shit. Robbery, theft, violence... None of these things were out of character for me, and they all came easy to me. It took a lot of work for me to break that cycle, but when I did my life changed dramatically. I became 'civilized', working to make every day be better than the last one. Harming someone now is unfathomable to me. But that is today. Take away society, civilized organization, and social structure, I'm not sure it would take much to go feral. I can't say that for everyone, but for most here in the colony I believe that in order to protect the integrity of self and family (I am talking about physical integrity not moral), most would do what is necessary.
As to the OPs question at hand... What is off limits? To survive? Nothing. In a desperate state of mind you would be surprised what one can justify. I wouldn't go roving to CAUSE harm, however if cornered -whether it be from other's aggressions or from my own scavenging/looting/stealing/raiding efforts - getting back to my family will be priority number 1. Everything else is an obstacle to overcome.
With that being said, I think I should elaborate a little. I'll give a couple of scenarios.
Scenario 1 - My family and I are on our own, running low on supplies. We have no support system in place from a MAG and have been moving from safe place to safe place (as safe as can be in the situation.) One of us could be sick, starving, or in serious danger. All bets are off. I am taking what I can get my hands on. And doing what needs to be done to get it.
Scenario 2 - we have found a semi-permanent location to fortify. We might have joined up with a few others. I am wary, but willing to work cooperatively with them for the good of the group. Always mindful. Again, we will be co-sufficient until NEEDS arise (not wants). But if those needs do arise then I must do what needs to be done. There is no room for moral and ethical quibbling. We will not die (gracefully).
Scenario 3 - this is where we have the luxury of weighing our options. A MAG has been established, perhaps a colony such as this one. We are more sustainable now, the need to scavenge has subsided and we are in a better place to barter or trade. Focus now is on defence. Keeping what we have safe. In that respects, once again, we do what must be done in order to survive. We won't need to be as aggressive, but we won't be passive either.
I hope this clears up any confusion on me being a psychopathic thief hell bent on murder and mayhem, throwing civility and morality to the wind just for the chance to steal sniper's peas.
CS I like your scenario breakdown. The differences between them are huge and would make a major change in how things got handled.
CS, I must say I don't think you are hellbent on destroying society, as I quite agree with everything you say. That is except for your last statement...I think you do covet Snipers peas, as do we all.
Last edited by Domeguy; 09-03-2015 at 12:02 PM. Reason: Sppeiellang
DG, you wanna make a pea run to the great white north? I think we could get us a meal or three from the patch.
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don't need to steal, come on up for a visit, we'll drink beer and eat peas!
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