Today I actually watched this on video, and it actually worked. Admittedly, it did rain some during the night, but the fire did not climb as everyone thought it would. The fire did get about 1/2 way into an upper log before it would roll into the fire pit. It was a successful self feeding fire. So, I was all those nay sayers to write a three page theme, (double spaced would be fine) why we should not speak when we don't know what we are talking about, and post it here on line.