Thanks gm, So plastic owl did work for you, that's good to know. Couple of neighbors said it didn't work for them. Hence the dangling tin icicles. Can't use the pie plates as it "looks tacky" per HOA, don't want DH to get in trouble with township, he still works for them. Sniper am in subdivision, they frown on shoot, shovel,etc. again, DH and Township.