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    Ive been seeing some of this in the news... something feels "funny" about all this. Egypt, muslim, etc.. The muslim religion is growing in strength and popularity all the while here state side.

    Im not well educated so maybe there is something else Im missing but I dont like any of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prepguide View Post
    Death toll now reported to be at 638. President Obama ordered the cancellation of joint military training exercises with Egypt as well.
    Good thing he didn't "Condemn" it, huh? Ah the Suez, yes the lifes blood of all major shipping of all goods and services from which the middle east and the Med utilize, and yes that sweet rich crude oil. Of course it's not being mentioned as much so as not to cause a panic, by the time it hits and they choke it it will be too late. We will be FUBAR'd here. The prices will go up, the "elected official" will continue to let the MoBro's do their dirty work with our help in case you haven't been paying attention he hasn't called it a coup yet. (if that's how it's spelled) Yes the Suez will killl the economy of Europe, the middle east and asia as well. It's a major pipeline. Listen We/I /The Navy have studied and scenario'ed this thing till we were blue in the face. It won't take anything to plug the Suez. A simple shipwreck to start, properly placed mine, RPG on the right ship, IE LPG (liquid petroleum Gas) carrier, fertilizer, all major bad Jew, jew. We (Navy) preplanned for everything possible on a Suez attack, but not really from within, not civil war. Sooooooo this could be a bad thing. Just my "roll of quarters" pardon the grammer and spelling, i'm on a pissed off roll.............
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brownwater Riverrat 13 View Post
    pardon the grammer and spelling, i'm on a pissed off roll.............
    I can handle the grammer part, it's when someone starts spitting when they are talking while Pissed Off I can't handle. So Big Bro Talk along........

    P.S. Just topped everything off last week... We saw it coming before the news started talking about it.
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    To me the trouble over in the Middle East is rather simple. Not just Egypt but the entirety of the Middle East.

    Those people have lived under a heavy handed dictator for years and years. For good reason. You turn them loose in a democracy and they murder each other. Their culture is different then ours. I wouldn't call them less civilized but the west is much less violent.

    If you have ever spent any time in Africa you know that it is the same down there. Give them freedom to choose and they choose to murder each other.

    The only way to introduce the Middle East and Africa to freedom is in baby steps. Throwing the doors open and saying "run wild! You are free!" Only accomplishes one thing. They will run free until they find a rock on the ground. Then they will pick up said rock and beat each other to death with it.
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    Original story HERE on sky news


    Egypt: Call For Daily Protests As Dozens Die
    Violent clashes break out during a "day of rage" in Cairo, with security officials claiming at least 60 people have died.
    9:17pm UK, Friday 16 August 2013


    Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood has called for a week of daily nationwide protests after thousands of its supporters rallied in different cities to denounce a violent crackdown on its followers this week.

    At least 60 people, including police officers, were reportedly killed on Friday after parts of the country descended into violence.

    "We call on the Egyptian people and national forces to protest daily until the coup ends," the Islamist group said in a statement in reference to the army's overthrow of President Mohamed Morsi last month.

    Tens of thousands of Brotherhood supporters clashed with armed vigilantes in the fiercest street battles to engulf the capital since the country's Arab Spring uprising.

    Residents battled with protesters taking part in what the Brotherhood called the "day of rage", ignited by anger at security forces for clearing two sit-in demonstrations on Wednesday.
    A man shoots a firearm during protests in Egypt A man points a firearm during protests in Egypt

    In a counter move, the National Salvation Front - a loose liberal and leftist coalition - called on Egyptians to take to the streets against what it said was "obvious terrorism actions" conducted by the Brotherhood.

    Tear gas could be seen during flashpoints in parts of the city, with protesters apparently hurling bottles and rocks at security forces.

    State media said one police officer died following an armed attack on a checkpoint in the capital Cairo, where the army has been deployed to guard "important and vital facilities" - and is authorised to use live ammunition.

    Reuters reported a security official who said 24 policemen have been killed in the last 24 hours.

    Automatic gunfire echoed across Cairo and black smoke billowed from the capital's huge Ramses Square, with a military helicopter hovering overhead looking down on the chaos.

    Security officials said at least 12 people died in the square after protesters clashed with residents in the area.

    Witnesses reported seeing the bodies of many of the dead in rows in a nearby mosque which had turned into a field hospital.
    A soldier holds weapon as he stands on armoured personnel carrier positioned outside state-run television station in Cairo Soldiers stand guard in vehicles outside Egypt's state TV building

    Early on Friday evening the Brotherhood called for an end to the day's rallies but said it would press on with daily protests.

    Prime Minister David Cameron and French President Francois Hollande held talks about the ongoing unrest during a phone call this afternoon. The pair have called for a "strong European message" and urged the EU to review its relations with Cairo.

    Germany said it condemned the violence in Egypt "in the strongest terms".

    The Brotherhood accuses the military of staging a coup last month when it ousted Mr Morsi, Egypt's first freely elected president since Hosni Mubarak was toppled.
    Egyptian army tanks mobilise in Cairo's Tahrir Square Egyptian armoured personnel carriers also gathered in Cairo's Tahrir Square

    Liberal and leftist activists who backed the military saw the move as a positive response to public demands.

    Catherine Ashton's European External Action Service said top officials of all 28 European Union members would meet on Monday to review the crisis in Egypt and discuss possible EU action.

    She has urged Europe to agree on "appropriate measures".

    However, Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah said his country stood with Egypt in its battle against "terrorism".

    With the country under a state of emergency and many provinces hit by night-time curfews, the interior ministry ordered police to use live ammunition if government buildings came under attack.

    International criticism of the bloodshed has continued to pour in and the United Nations Security Council held an emergency meeting last night on the crisis at the request of France, Britain and Australia.
    A member of the Muslim Brotherhood and supporter of deposed Egyptian President Mohamed Mursi shouts slogans as riot police clear Rabaa Adawiya square, where they are camping, in Cairo Muslim Brotherhood supporters say they will not back down

    Afterwards, the Argentinian president of the council urged all sides to exercise "maximum restraint".

    Ambassador Maria Cristina Perceval, whose country currently presides over the 15-country body, said member states called for an end to the violence and spoke of the need to advance "national reconciliation".

    Signalling his displeasure at the worst bloodshed in Egypt for generations, US President Barack Obama said normal co-operation between Washington and Cairo could not continue and announced the cancellation of military exercises with Egypt next month.
    Clashes Leave Many Dead And Injured Officials say more than 600 people died in nationwide clashes on Wednesday

    "We deplore violence against civilians. We support universal rights essential to human dignity, including the right to peaceful protest," he said.

    His remarks sparked a defiant response from the Egyptian presidency which said that "statements not based on facts may encourage violent armed groups".

    Despite the condemnation, Egypt's interim prime minister Hazem al Beblawi praised the police for their "self-restraint" and said the government remained committed to an army-drafted roadmap calling for elections in 2014.
    A military helicopter flies over clouds of smoke after clashes between members of the Muslim Brotherhood and supporters of ousted Egyptian President Mohamed Mursi at Azbkya police station during clashes at Ramses Square A military helicopter flies over Cairo

    He justified the use of force saying supporters of Mr Morsi had been sowing chaos, "terrorising citizens, attacking public and private property".

    Egypt's ambassador to Britain has said the force used in deadly raids on Cairo protest camps was "not at all excessive".

    Speaking at the Egyptian embassy in London, Ashraf El Kholy said the camps set up by Morsi loyalists were "not as peaceful and innocent" as protesters claimed.

    "I think with these number of deaths and this amount of violence, (the protesters) got what they wanted," he said.

    While several countries, including the US and France, have advised their citizens not to travel to anywhere in Egypt, UK holiday companies are still operating in parts of the country.
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    Egypt is experiencing a real deal SHTF event.

    I don't know who the "good guys" are in that situation but to all the average daily people who are just trying to get through life....good luck.
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    IMNSHO the US being involved in other countries' troubles only brings us trouble at a time when the country is struggling. Stock up now on staples, TP, fuel, coffee, tea and nuke alert key ring. Also prepare and revise your contingency plans. Water filters ready, water stash up to snuff, preps for animals (domestic) and keep a cool head. Check the ridges and watch your topknot!
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